Nifty Quotes

[Emproph]

Nifty - informal particularly good, effective, or stylish.

I come across nifty and thought provoking one-liners so often, not always profound, but always entertaining and usually thought provoking. I don’t want to forget them yet there’s no practical way I’ve found to save them for future reference. I thought perhaps this could be an outlet for us to avoid that frustration.

Others will be free to enjoy them and use them and/or the logic behind them, and we ourselves will tend to remember them better for having secondarily posted them on top of initially reading them.

Often useful for debate or banter, if I’m not quoting them directly I usually put my own spin on it, and use the dot dot dot (...) in order to skip parts without compromising context. (Unless I’m with friends or family, then I steal outright – unless pressed. ;) )

Feel free to add. Commentary or quotes, famous or personal. I think the goal here is in finding new and original expressions that are simple yet profound – or as it relates to persons of fame, those quotes that may be unused or forgotten.

Don’t forget to consider adding personal spin off quotes or start spin off threads if something seems of particular value. They can be about anything, even negative anti-gay quotes, I think the measure here should be the creative quality of the sentiment.

For the sake of accuracy and integrity I’m making a point to include links when possible.

[Emproph]

~Don't go after the 5%-10% of marginal Republican leaning independents in the north, but instead the 1%-2% in very close races who can't decide whether they hate gays or gas prices more.

~I find it hard to believe extremist Christians don't hate gays when in fact they seek to criminalize their biologic nature..

~Bill Clinton is not the president anymore. Jack Kennedy has been dead for years. No one cares about former U.S. Rep. Barney Frank. If Republicans want to defend your pedophile, go ahead. But stay on topic.

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link1 (http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/12/fin_de_lepoch) link2 (http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/10/11/letters/doc45259c159c9ab237415075.txt) link3 (http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/oct/13/letter_nice_try/?opinion)
PS Link however you like, that's just the best I could do right now. :)

[Emproph]

~ (http://www.alternet.org/story/39273/) It’s expensive to be poor.

~ (http://www.mattbors.com/2006/09/new-toon-no-moo-lies.html) I suppose the logic goes that if one person could change back to "normal" then none of the 6.5 billion people on the planet could be born gay. It's that simple.

~ (http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/showthread.php?t=24404) ..always looking out for others ya little sweetheart (or you maybe a 350 pound samoan with a baboon heart?)

~ (http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/10/15/editorial_main/doc452ecbb6dc6b6437873617.txt) If it were a choice I'd choose homosexuality just so I would no longer have to feel guilt by association as a member of the bigoted heterosexual orientation.

[Jennifer5]

Sorry I haven' had much time to respond to this thread, it's great though and I love the ones you've posted....

-Reality what a concept.
-Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; indeed it's the only thing that ever has.

I'll find more when my eyes aren't half closed.:love:

[1engelbythesea]

Whenever morality is based on theology, whenever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be
justified and established. -Ludwig Feuerbach, philosopher (1804-1872)

[Emproph]

November 7th: The End of an Error.

[Jennifer5]

As you will see, there is no order to these quotes....


- My job is to comfort the distrubed & disturb the comfortable.

- When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.

- When you reach the top, keep climbing.

- Every gun that was made, every rocket fire launched, every shot fired signifies; in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.

-A right delayed, it a right denied.

- Faith is taking the first step even if you don't see the staircase.

- A family is a circle of friends who love you.

- Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.


Ok someone else's turn....

[1engelbythesea]

If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to work: "Hello. Can't work today, still queer." ~ Robin Tyler

I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you don't have to tell your mother. ~ Charles Pierce

'You could move.' ~ Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," In response to a reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the street and wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the neighborhood.

The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is that the next time the government mandates a draft, we can all declare we are homosexual instead of running off to Canada. ~ Lorne Bloch

Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I think they are just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a faggot?"~ Jon Stewart

My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those women out there praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share. ~ Rita Mae Brown

Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or death say they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as soldiers; we should be used as weapons. ~ ~ ~ Letter to the Editor, The Advocate

You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight. ~ Barry Goldwater

[Emproph]

'You could move.' ~ Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby."

In response to a reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the street and wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the neighborhood.
Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or death say they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as soldiers; we should be used as weapons.

~ Letter to the Editor, The Advocate TO-DIE-FOR. :rofl:

I hope someday that I too will be able to 'skill' others with such piercing wit.

~~~

God hates the sin and loves the sinner
One common misunderstanding is that we DO gay.

~Anonymous

[marutidas]

~There are 6 verses in the bible against homosexuality, while there 200,000
that are about helping the poor and the sick. It's good to know where the religious rights priorities are.:D

[1engelbythesea]

For every ten people who are clipping at the branches of evil, you're lucky
to find one who's hacking at the roots. -Henry David Thoreau, naturalist
and author (1817-1862)

[1engelbythesea]

Since you enjoyed the last one here are some more.

Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~ Ernest Gaines

My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual life, if it were broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise and horror. ~ W. Somerset Maugham

Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't. ~ Author Unknown

If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female homosexuals should be called "ecstatic." ~ Shelly Roberts

My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen because she thought I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it. ~ Amanda Bearse

It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of homosexuality. It's like disapproving of rain. ~ Francis Maude


The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. ~ Rita Mae Brown

[Emproph]

"Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right."

~ Larry Mundinger, 1999

[Emproph]

"Straight Gene Jacket"

~and~

"The El Paso Tickler"

~Emproph


~~~
(PS -feel free to use.) :D

[Emproph]

God bless every prayer that blesses every prayer.

[Jennifer5]

God bless every prayer that blesses every prayer.

It took me a minute to get that one... but I love it!:love:

[BruceChris]

"And the final arrogance, as Jeff Sharlet has noted, is that lesbianism is not even part of the evangelical conversation about homosexuality".

P&L, BC

[Emproph]

God bless every prayer that blesses every prayer.

It took me a minute to get that one... but I love it!:love:
Thanks Jennifer. I'm glad you said that because I'm finding myself still re-figuring it out. I'm tempted to write an essay here but it continues to work, it's an open loop.

"And the final arrogance, as Jeff Sharlet has noted, is that lesbianism is not even part of the evangelical conversation about homosexuality".

P&L, BC..Don't get me started. Left out everytime they're "included."

[Emproph]

"I laughed so hard that I spit cereal on my keyboard – which was bizarre because I was eating eggs at the time."
-AARM


"It is analogous to putting a sane person in a str8 jacket and declaring him insane."
-Huggins

(Re 'they define themselves by their lifestyle.')


“I kept violating my standards faster than I could lower them.”
-Robin Williams


"Worried about gay marriage? Prey harder."

"Bush's Plan? Our GIs are dying to know."

"The Rapture is Not an Exit Strategy"

-workingforchange

~~

"Faith, the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, did not have to be uncritical or blind in order to be strong."
~Stolen

~~~~~~~
PS, I'm having a 500th post party soon. Where? I cannot say. When? I do not know. But soon! and for a relatively short time.. :D
-Emproph

[Emproph]

"There are good people who are in politics – in both parties – who hold this at arms length. Because if they acknowledge it and recognize it, then the moral imperative to make big changes is inescapable."
~Al Gore / An Inconvenient Truth

"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so."
~Mark Twain via An Inconvenient Truth

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[tdogg]

"Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right."

~ Larry Mundinger, 1999

Oooohhhhhhh - good one Emproph!:eek:

[Jennifer5]

"I laughed so hard that I spit cereal on my keyboard – which was bizarre because I was eating eggs at the time." ...I love this one, gross.. but I couldn't stop laughing..

"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ...this one I don't completely get.....

[Emproph]

❝ When I hear somebody sigh, “Life is hard,” I am always tempted to ask, “Compared to what?”

Sydney Harris ❞

That reminds me of the line:

"Oh, it can always get worse..."


(BTW I just stole that first quote from Thom :D )

[Emproph]

"I laughed so hard that I spit cereal on my keyboard – which was bizarre because I was eating eggs at the time."
-AARM...I love this one, gross.. but I couldn't stop laughing..My sentiments exactly. :D

"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so."
~Mark Twain via An Inconvenient Truth...this one I don't completely get.....How many Christians "know for sure" that the Bible is inerrant? How many conservatives "know for sure" that they're being told the truth?

Not knowing something is one thing. Thinking that you know something that you don't actually know [and then acting upon it] is quite another. :)

[Jennifer5]

How many Christians "know for sure" that the Bible is inerrant? How many conservatives "know for sure" that they're being told the truth?

Not knowing something is one thing. Thinking that you know something that you don't actually know [and then acting upon it] is quite another. :)...Thanks, some of those take some time for me to understand.. I like it though:D

[Emproph]

"I believe that there is a plan and a purpose for each person's life and that there are forces working in the universe to bring about good and to create a community of love and brotherhood. Those who can attune themselves to these forces - to God's purpose - can become special instruments of his will."


- Coretta Scott King, in her 1969 autobiography My Life with Martin Luther King, Jr.

~rainbowharold

[marutidas]

"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital, quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."~RFK

"The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country."~RFK

"Men without hope, resigned to despair and oppression, do not make revolutions. It is when expectation replaces submission, when despair is touched with the awareness of possibility, that the forces of human desire and the passion for justice are unloosed." ~RFK(Berkeley, Oct-22-1966)

"Few will have the greatness to bend history; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation ... It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." ~RFK South Africa, 1966

"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."~RFK June 5th, 1968 (From the last speech he gave)

The greatest president we never got to have.:'(

[Emproph]

I was born in September 1968. My life is one of his ripples. I'm officially the ripple I was meant to be.

[Emproph]

I had a pet sin once – it got run over by a truck.
~AARM


He was up for Hitler's job but the screening commitee thought he was too evil.
~Pizza, the movie


Thank God for Separation of Church and State!
~Daniel

[Emproph]

...Na' see, you can run around in circles all day long, ya ain't never gonna make a square..
~Ross Perot?

[Daniel]

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

Oscar Wilde

[Daniel]

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.

I am not young enough to know everything.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.

[Daniel]

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

Wilde was, if anything, quite the philosopher.

[Jennifer5]

Those are all great!

[Emproph]

The Quote Garden: A Harvest of Quotes for Word Lovers, at www.quotegarden.com, is a personal collection of my favorite inspirational, funny, thought-provoking, famous, and literary quotations, a free and ever-growing resource for writers, speakers, students, and word lovers - for scrapbooks, scrapbook journaling, newsletters, speeches, greeting cards, crafts, journals, essays, cool one-liners for blogs, witty email taglines, or a quick quote of the day. Browse, search, enjoy the inspiration!

[Emproph]

They're so cheap they don't even pay lip service.

[Jennifer5]

They're so cheap they don't even pay lip service.

Ok, where on earth did you get that one?:lol:

[marutidas]

If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

Wilde was, if anything, quite the philosopher.

I like that one alot.:lol:

Any fool can scare someone, but it take a genius to make people laugh.
(don't know if any one actually said it, but it sound like it does.)

[Jennifer5]

Any fool can scare someone, but it take a genius to make people laugh.
(don't know if any one actually said it, but it sound like it does.)
Very true... and I like that quote too, don't know how I managed to kind of pass over it before:rolleyes:

[Jennifer5]

"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."

-- Anne Lamott

I love that quote, so many levels of truth!!!!:love: It applies to everyone.:)

[Vanessa White]

because it speaks to the kind of person I am:
"Happiness lies for those who cry, those who hurt, those who have searched, and those who have tried, for only they can appreciate the importance of people who have touched their lives."

I don't know the name of the author, it was text in a picture compilation email from a friend of mine. But I love the words....

[Deb]

love this thread... made my day. :lol: :eek: :rolleyes:

[Jennifer5]

love this thread... made my day. :lol: :eek: :rolleyes:
Glad to hear that! Feel free to jump in when-ever you feel comfortable!:love: (Welcome!)

[Emproph]

love this thread... made my day. :lol: :eek: :rolleyes:Glad to hear that! Feel free to jump in when-ever you feel comfortable!:love: (Welcome!)
I was glad to read that too. Yes, welcome to Soulforce Deb.

[BenL]

The opposite of faith is not doubt. It's certitude.

Mark Beckwith in a sermon at All Saints, Worcester MA, some months ago.

[Vanessa White]

"The things that matter most in our lives are not fantastic or grand. They are the moments when we touch one another when we are there in the most attentive or caring way. This simple and profound intimacy is the love that we all long for." Jack Kornfield:love: :love: :love: :love:

[tpdncr4christ]

Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.:D

[nmwolfboy]

"Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
A medley of extemporanea;
And love is a thing that can never go wrong;
And I am Marie of Romania."
Dorothy Parker, Not So Deep as a Well (1937)

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."
F. Scott Fitzgerald, "The Crack-Up" (1936)

"If you would persuade, you must appeal to interest rather than intellect."
Benjamin Franklin

"He that blows the coals in quarrels that he has nothing to do with, has no right to complain if the sparks fly in his face."
Benjamin Franklin

"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide

"I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith."
Diane Frolov & Andrew Schneider, Northern Exposure, Seoul Mates, 1991

[Deb833]

Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.:D

LOL

I totally love this thread! I love sayings and always using them when talking to my kids. The one they are most tired of hearing (when they say "I wish") is, "If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride". I don't remember where I saw that but it is a good reply.

I saw another one on You Tube. A student (I think) was interviewing a teacher (I think) and the woman said, "You can't legistate the human heart". I just loved that one.

I have more in my documents, I'll have to dig up some of my favorites.

[Dash]

Couple a Gandhi quotes:

"My experience has shown that we win justice quickest by rendering justice to the other party."

"This ahimsa [nonviolence] is the basis of the search for truth. I am realizing every day that the search is vain unless it is founded on ahimsa as the basis. It is quite proper to resist and attack a system, but to resist and attack its author is tantamount to resisting and atacking oneself. For we are all tarred with the same brush, and are children of one and the same Creator, and as such the divine powers within us are infinite. To slight a single human being is to slight those divine powers, and thus to harm not only that being but with him the whole world."


And from the Tao Te Ching (or Te Tao Ching as this translator made it):

When people are born, they're supple and soft:
When they die, they end up stretched out firm and rigid;
When the ten thousand things and grasses and trees are alive, they're supple and pliant;
When they're dead, they're withered and dried out.
Therefore we say that the firm and rigid are companions of death,
While the supple, the soft, the weak, and the delicate are companions of life.
If a soldier is rigid, he won't win;
If a tree is rigid, it will come to its end.
Rigidity and power occupy the inferior position;
Suppleness, softness, weakness, and delicateness occupy the superior position.

:flower:

[Jennifer5]

"And here is my secret, a very simple secret: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."

-from The Little Prince...for those who haven't read the book, you really should... it's really short, and yes it was on a freshmen reading list... but I know a lot of adults who love this book... READ IT!!! I think you'll more-likely-then-not like it!:love:

[keltic63]

someone just sent me this in an email: God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts.

[Emproph]

Better that a guy with father issues act out through homosexual acts, than that he get himself elected president and act out through acts of war. That's all I have to say on the matter.
~AARM (http://reaarmed.talkbeliefs.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=6971&forum_id=10)
~~
"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
~Thomas Jefferson
~~
The present subject of transgenderism aside, any doctor who would advocate harassment and bullying of children by anyone should have his license to "do no harm" revoked.
~Re NARTH (http://www.bilerico.com/2006/09/001572.php)
~~
Most haters will turn a deaf ear once you best them in argument.
~knowthyneighbor.org blog (http://knowthyneighbor.blogs.com/home/2006/11/lets_give_mitt_.html)

(^ No wonder I can't seem to maintain a "relationship" with those I debate on line. :lol:)
~~
The only "experts" are gays themselves.
~ibid

[Jennifer5]

Secrecy is the enemy of democracy. If politicians are acting honorably, they can do it with the doors open and the lights on.

[Emproph]

because you treat me like an equal

[Zerbie]

because you treat me like an equal

:confused:

I don't get it. Was there a context for this?

[Emproph]

because you treat me like an equal:confused: I don't get it. Was there a context for this?

Sorry, and thanks. I just didn't want to ruin it. Long story short, there ended up to be too many contexts, but here's the run down: :agree:
~~
At first it was supposed to be:

...because you treat me like an equal.

As in, "I love you...because you treat me like an equal.

It was in referrence to God, and immediately it brought me to the struggle for Equality that we face and how it all really comes down to wanting just that in order to feel comfortable with someone, or be "one" with them, and thus "love" them.

And then I thought about my family and my brother especially, and how condescending I can be because I actually am morally superior to them and I take it for granted that they should recognize this.
Kind of like I take it for granted that you'all should know to take statements like that with a healthy grain of salt. But they didn't take my sarcasm with a healthy grain of salt. Perhaps because I didn't suggest to do so. Whatever the case, I'll do better next time.

Point being though, I don't fear God to the extent that I perceive that God considers me an equal. I am coming from a paradigm of everyone already having the Power and Glory of God here and now.

But my brother is coming from a paradigm where God does not consider him equal to himself, thus there is a never ending struggle to measure up to God, usually by measuring others down.

So I realized it could also be seen as because you treat me like an equal...
~~

1) [I love you]...because you treat me like an [I]equal.

or

2) [I]because you treat me like an equal...

The first sentiment is to God. If I believe God love's me as much as it loves itself then Love treats me as an equal. Equality is what I recognize as Love/God, and thus expect from our "Christian" counterparts.

The second is from our "Christian" counterparts. They despise the fact that we consider ourselves equal to them, namely because their idea of God is literally one of 'holier than thou,' the antithesis of love. They can never measure up enough, they're addicted to measuring up. Throw gays in the mix and they have an endless source of "measuring up." (until we're no longer considered inferior..)

And once I got that far in my thinking I was convinced it resonated without explanation, so I decided to just throw it to the wind and see if it had any resonating effect.

I was going to keep an eye out for a :confused: anyway, so I hope that at least provided some context. :D

I think I like the first one the best though as far as objective resonating effect goes.

...because you treat me like an equal.

[Jennifer5]

...because you treat me like an equal.

I think I get it... not sure if I think of that the same way you do or not, but I actually say that a lot.

I respect you...becuase you treat me like an equal.
I love you... because you treat me like an equal.


..I just hadn't really ever heard anyone else say that.

[andrewlittle]

...it just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa

"The greatest obstacle to new learning often is not the student's lack of prior knowledge but rather, the existence of prior knowledge." -- Bader

"Books have the same enemies as people: fire, humidity, animals, weather, and their own content." -- Paul Valery

"Me and a book is a party. Me and a book and a cup of coffee is an orgy." -- Robert Fripp

"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." -- Terry Pratchett

"I believe in an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out." -- Arthur Hays Sulzberger

"Often it does seem a pity that Noah and his party did not miss the boat." -- Mark Twain

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Sir Winston Churchill

"Well, I've been listening to my gut since I was 14 years old, and frankly speaking, I've come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains." -- Rob Gordon (Hi-Fidelity)

This one is the story of my life:
"Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't like and just give her a house." -- Rod Stewart

And finally:
"Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?" -- Puskuritarra

[andrewlittle]

... is best used by someone who can envision a positive outcome. Otherwise, it is self-defense. -- Andy Little

[Jennifer5]

... is best used by someone who can envision a positive outcome. Otherwise, it is self-defense. -- Andy Little
I love that!!!!

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do, than by the ones you did do.
So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails and EXPLORE . . . DREAM . . .
DISCOVER."
—Mark Twain
and that one too!!

[BruceChris]

"President Bush may be often in error, but he is never in doubt" -- William Perry, former secretary of defense.

About two min ago.

P&L, BC

[Jennifer5]

"My mother made me a homosexual... Really? if I paid for the material would she make me one too?"
-- scrawled on the wall of the bathroom at the Hungarian Pastry shop in Manhattan 25 years ago

..ok, I had to read that a few to many times before I got it... but :lol: , I love it.. I'm just slow, it's to early...

[Jennifer5]

It was "Lesbian" and not "homosexual" so feel free to use it!
thanks... but that doesn't exactly make a difference to me

[Daniel]

"Strengthen me by sympathizing with my strengths, not my weaknesses."

A. Bronson Alcott. "Sympathy." 1877.

[Jennifer5]

"Strengthen me by sympathizing with my strengths, not my weaknesses."

A. Bronson Alcott. "Sympathy." 1877.
...like it:)

[Daniel]

Nifty? Perhaps not. But the verbal blunders of our president are often cause for amusement. Consider the following.

President Bush: "the French have no word for ‘entrepreneur.'"

[Jennifer5]

'You could move.' ~ Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," In response to a reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the street and wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the neighborhood.
Sadly the whole 'you could move' thing has been used in the town I live in... only not over homosexuality, over the Native Americans...

It was completely ridiculous though, it was all over this tiny little park being given back to the tribe, and some of the people that live here right next to the park got all upset and said they didn't want that to happen and it would cause all kinds of issues etc. So the rest of the community just made it very clear to them if they don't like they can just leave, seeing that the park was voted back to the tribe by the state with a good 9/10+ of the people supporting that decision... I think that family did actually end up selling their beautiful waterfront home and leaving... the community was happy to be rid of them, they were nothing but trouble:rolleyes:, we all agreed that this was a stupid argument seeing that we're all surrounding by the Indian Reservation.

[Emproph]

"IF anyone has special rights, it is people who are not gay or lesbian, and if you want to pick a fight with me on this issue, look up the applicable definitions of 'special' and 'rights' in the dictionary and then try to prove your point."
~justiceblog (http://justiceblog.statesmanblogs.com/entry.aspx?q=1a1600d0-bd99-4823-910b-976b0019b262)

(It would seem that the phrase "special rights" is an oxymoron.)
~~
Jennifer, I'll have to remember that story the next time someone says America has always been a Christian nation.

"Native Americans were Christians?" :eek:

[Jennifer5]

Jennifer, I'll have to remember that story the next time someone says America has always been a Christian nation.

"Native Americans were Christians?" :eek:
Well, America as we know it... really it a Christian Nation and based on Christian values, but it wasn't until those so called 'Christians' took the land from its rightful owners and put them on the reservations. It's truley amazing that Native Americans don't hate Christians...

But, other then that one family who mangaged to get a couple others upset too, that issue came and went... that park was given back to the tribe, and people were very happy. It was actually an amazing thing to see.. when they were doing hearing (I suppose that's what it was called), to decide if they were going to give this tiny little park back to the Tribe, finally, since people were making their speeches stating their opinion... although the board/committee(whatever they're called), was a little annoyed by that action... one person turned to the crowd in the huge room that was over-flowing with people, the person said, "if you are insupport of the park going back to the tribe, please stand up, so we can just give our dicision makers an idea of what they're dealing with"...... and it was incredible to see, as a room full of probably close to 300 people, all except for probably 30 stood up. Many of the tribal elders were in tears when the declared the that the Suquamish Tribe was now responsible for the "Old Man House Park".:applause:

(ok, sorry... you probably really didn't care about that part, but it was incredible to witness, and I love sharing the story.)

[Emproph]

It's truley amazing that Native Americans don't hate Christians...
...Or Americans. Whose Christian now eh?

and it was incredible to see, as a room full of probably close to 300 people, all except for probably 30 stood up. Many of the tribal elders were in tears when the declared the that the Suquamish Tribe was now responsible for the "Old Man House Park".:applause:

(ok, sorry... you probably really didn't care about that part, but it was incredible to witness, and I love sharing the story.)

Are you kidding, Just reading that almost had me in tears. Were you there? That’s incredibly interesting to me because I rarely ever hear of it anymore (outside of maybe gambling issues).

We don’t even think about them. We decimated them and we don’t even think about them. We are a nation founded on genocide.

We need more attention to this in regard to the discussions on religious right fascism/dominionism. We all need a good history smack, at least I know I do.

It always seems to come back to history. It's all happened before. I forget who said this but it's one of my favorite quotes:

"He who forgets his past is doomed to repeat it."

I took that saying to heart over 20 years ago. needless to say I've made it a habit of remembering things, no matter how painful. It tends to go in hand with this saying in regard to fear, but they only work together:

"If you don't make mistakes, you cannot learn from them."
~Seth

[Jennifer5]

Are you kidding, Just reading that almost had me in tears. Were you there? That’s incredibly interesting to me because I rarely ever hear of it anymore (outside of maybe gambling issues).

We don’t even think about them. We decimated them and we don’t even think about them. We are a nation founded on genocide.

We need more attention to this in regard to the discussions on religious right fascism/dominionism. We all need a good history smack, at least I know I do.

It always seems to come back to history. It's all happened before. I forget who said this but it's one of my favorite quotes:

"He who forgets his past is doomed to repeat it."

I took that saying to heart over 20 years ago. needless to say I've made it a habit of remembering things, no matter how painful. It tends to go in hand with this saying in regard to fear, but they only work together:

"If you don't make mistakes, you cannot learn from them."
~Seth

Yes, I did get to actually get to be there and it was a great thing to see! ..and it's nice to hear that the story is apreciated.

One of my moms friends was the appointed one of the Washington State Human Rights Commissioners, so my sister and I got to witness a couple amazing things that we never would have gotten to experience otherwise, I'll always remember these times.. feeling like I wanted to go and hug these complete strangers seeing the pain and suffering they have been put through, and wanting more then anything to be in a position where I would be able to promise them that everything will be alright. Actually, when I think about it... the Human Rights Commissioner position might be one I'd consider at some point in my life. It's just amazing to see grown men and women in tears over the way they have been treated by, sometimes their community, sometimes the law, all different things. Just changes your view on life.:love:

[Emproph]

"Pride is only a sin for straight white men, for the rest of us it is a necessity."

~kara's black lesbian friend (http://www.soulforce.org/forums/showpost.php?p=20200&postcount=3)

[Daniel]

“For Americans morality has nothing at all to do with ethics or right action or who is stealing what money — and liberties — from whom. Morality is SEX. SEX. SEX.”

Gore Vidal

[Emproph]

Senator Gordon Smith (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/s001142/), R - Oregon

Shepard's Name on Hate Crimes Bill (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/12/AR2007041201864.html)


"This act is about the prosecution of crime, not prohibition of speech," Smith said. "Unless they believe part of their religion is the practice of violence against others, they should not be affected by this bill."

[BrianB]

"Gay people aren't a threat to marriage...married people are." --Jay Leno-- I think it was Jay or Letterman.

This next is just a quote I like, not necessarily related to homosexuality.

"If you don't know where you're going you may end up someplace else." --Yogi Berra --

[Emproph]

Anytime you reveal the distance between a group's alleged values and their true values, there's the potential for growth.

Holly Capote (http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showComment.do?commentId=16806)

[Casey]

I found the most awesome quotes that i read everyday before i go to school!

~The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision.

~If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to work: "Hello. Can't work today, still queer."

~Everybody's journey is individual. If you fall in love with a boy, you fall in love with a boy. The fact that many Americans consider it a disease says more about them than it does about homosexuality.

~I'm a supporter of gay rights. And not a closet supporter either. From the time I was a kid, I have never been able to understand attacks upon the gay community. There are so many qualities that make up a human being... by the time I get through with all the things that I really admire about people, what they do with their private parts is probably so low on the list that it is irrelevant.

~If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female homosexuals should be called "ecstatic."

~Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night.

~My mom blames California for me being a lesbian. "Everything was fine until you moved out there." "That's right, Mom, we have mandatory lesbianism in West Hollywood. The Gay Patrol busted me, and I was given seven business days to add a significant amount of flannel to my wardrobe.

~We love men. We just don't want to see them naked.

~If Michelangelo had been straight, the Sistine Chapel would have been wallpapered.

~An engineering professor is treating her husband, a loan officer, to dinner for finally giving in to her pleas to shave off the scraggly beard he grew on vacation. His favorite restaurant is a casual place where they both feel comfortable in slacks and cotton/polyester-blend golf shirts. But, as always, she wears the gold and pearl pendant he gave her the day her divorce decree was final. They're laughing over their menus because they know he always ends up diving into a giant plate of ribs but she won't be talked into anything more fattening than shrimp.
Quiz: How many biblical prohibitions are they violating? Well, wives are supposed to be 'submissive' to their husbands (I Peter 3:1). And all women are forbidden to teach men (I Timothy 2:12), wear gold or pearls (I Timothy 2:9) or dress in clothing that 'pertains to a man' (Deuteronomy 22:5). Shellfish and pork are definitely out (Leviticus 11:7, 10) as are usury (Deuteronomy 23:19), shaving (Leviticus 19:27) and clothes of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19). And since the Bible rarely recognizes divorce, they're committing adultery, which carries the rather harsh penalty of death by stoning (Deuteronomy 22:22).
So why are they having such a good time? Probably because they wouldn't think of worrying about rules that seem absurd, anachronistic or - at best - unrealistic. Yet this same modern-day couple could easily be among the millions of Americans who never hesitate to lean on the Bible to justify their own anti-gay attitudes.

~If God had wanted me otherwise, He would have created me otherwise.

[Emproph]

"I don't doubt someone's claim to believe in the Lord, just their ability to differentiate His voice from their own.."

~awediot

[Jennifer5]

"I don't doubt someone's claim to believe in the Lord, just their ability to differentiate His voice from their own.."

~awediot

I love that one!!!

[d_pedr]

Here's one that I like: (just look at the date!!! - this must be a translation or paraphrase obviously)

'Young people nowadays love luxury; they have bad manners and contempt for authority. they show disrespect for old people... contradict their parents, talk constantly in front of company, gobble their food and tyranize their teachers.' Socrates circa 400 BC

Is nothing new?:confused:

My parents told me it was our generation!

[kitt2000]

A str8 person will only believe half of what they hear, but it take a Gay person to know which half..that is my "spin of it, Kitt

[Jennifer5]

I'll blank right now... but come on ONE person here must have some of their favorite quotes on mind that they haven't mentioned yet, someone please share?!?!:pray:

[Jennifer5]

Time for more quotes and time to bump this thread. :p

These were all up on the wall in a local hospital. They sound better when you're nervous, I still like them though.


If you can imagine it, you can achieve it. If you can dream it, you can become it. -William Ward


Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul. Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal. -Pamela Vaull Starr


You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover will be yourself. -Alan Alda


Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not. -Ralph Waldo Emerson


The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscape but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust


The more light you allow within you, the brighter the world you live in will be. -Shakta Gawain

My favorite in the group:
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

[offog]

Originally posted by 1ENGELBYTHESEA:
"Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I think they are just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a faggot?"~ Jon Stewart"

I love that one! It reminds me of another joke I picked up some years back from a TV show featuring Canadian stand-up comic Sandra Shamus. She talked about how when you have a group of women living or working together for a long time, they all get their periods at the same time. So you go to a restaurant where the waitresses have been working together since 1959, and you go in on the wrong day, they'll all be grumpy.

"This (PMS) is the real reason the military doesn't want women in combat. Can you imagine 500 armed women all having PMS?"

Also originally posted by 1ENGELBYTHESEA:"The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is that the next time the government mandates a draft, we can all declare we are homosexual instead of running off to Canada." ~ Lorne Bloch

About two years ago, I saw an editorial cartoon that said much the same thing. The first panel had a guy saying something about gays still being banned in the military. In the second panel, a guy in a suit walks into the Oval Office to tell George W. Bush "Mr. President, 150,00 soldiers just outed themselves."

Other quotations:

"If you don't vote, don't bitch." Steve Earle

"What we desire for ourselves, we wish for all." J.S. Woodsworth
Woodsworth was a Canadian Member of Parliament during the 1930s. He was one of those EVIL Canadian socialists. It's my favorite quotation in the world.

"I don't get the big fuss about gay marriage. The term 'gay lifestyle' tends to be associated with promiscuity. So if some gays are in committed enough relationships that they want to get married, don't f***ing complain!" offog
Yep, I made this one up myself.