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marytkelly
11-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Good afternoon to all. I just found out about this site today. I live in Boulder, Colorado. The recent events surrounding Ted Haggard reminded me of Mel White's story I read about so many years ago.

I am now in my early 50's, married (second marriage) with four beautiful children. In my 30's my former husband and I were deeply involved in an evangelical church in Boulder (yes there are some). I was a Bible Study Fellowship teacher, involved in Young Life and emmersed in Christian only friendships.

When I was 33, my father was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. 6 months pregnant, I traveled to San Francisco in the hopes of seeing him after a very dangerous surgery. He survived the surgery and was in the ICU.

At the time, I believed that homosexuality was a "sin" and that AIDS, while not a punishment of homosexuality, was a "natural consequence" of it. I am ashamed of myself when I look back on this time.

In the room next to my father, I heard the persistent screams and moans coming from a young man. This went on for what seemed to be hours. I couldn't understand why this man was in so much pain, and why medication didn't seem to be helping.

When the nurse came in to check on my father, I asked what was wrong with the man in the next room. She told me that he was in the end stages of AIDS, and that there wasn't much they could do. I was horrified. Soon thereafter, they must have given him something that finally knocked him out, and I saw him being wheeled out of the room unconscious. This man was young...he looked like my husband.

When I went out to the waiting room, I could see that there was no family waiting for this man, just two friends of his. I was shaken to my core. I kept thinking, "NO ONE DESERVES THIS...NO ONE." How this young man could be in so much pain, dying, with no family but his dear friends.

I went back to Colorado, in the midst of the controversy over Amendment 2 (an unconstitutional anti-gay amendment that passed and thankfully was reversed by the Supreme Court), determined to educate myself about homosexuality. I started reading as many books as I could about the subject. I also went back for my master's in counseling where I was further educated.

At the same time, the church I was attending had recently "fired" an incredibly talented woman who had been leading one of the adult choirs because she was gay. It became a visible controversy in Boulder and the church was being picketed by gay activists. The last day we went to church there, people in my Sunday school class were talking about how they were "right" and the gays were "wrong". With my new eyes, it turned my stomach.

We went home that day and I sat my husband and young children down. I explained to my children what it meant to be gay...that it was natural and normal, and God created each of us in unique and wonderful ways. I told them that the church their father and I were going to didn't believe this and that we were never going back. They were young, and I'm not sure they understood, but they certainly welcomed the relief from getting dressed early on Sunday mornings and enduring the rigid teachings that I'm sure they never understood!

I read Mel White's book Stranger at the Gate which helped further cement my firm decision. I lost 95% of my Christian friends when I told them of my disagreement with the typical evangelical views about homosexuality.

I didn't care. They were trying to keep me in a box as much as they were my fellow gay brothers and sisters.

In Colorado, I just voted for a referendum that would have given gay couples basic civil rights they are entitled to as couples. It didn't pass and my heart is broken. It's almost 20 years since "I saw the light" and yet there is still so much misunderstanding and darkness around this issue.

I feel compassion for Ted Haggard because he has been surrounded by a closed system and seems to continue to be smothered in a belief system that will continue to deny his beautiful essence and core.

I wanted to see what Mel White was up to and found this site. For anyone still reading, thanks for your patience and it's nice to be here,

Mary

P.S. My four children are now young adults ranging in age from 19-24. While they are all heterosexual, they are welcoming and embracing to their gay friends and close cousin who recently came out of the closet and grateful they are able to be who they are and believe what is true for them.

BruceChris
11-09-2006, 05:30 PM
It would seem that you have come a great deal farther than most in our society, or even a fair number of our (GLBT) community. I find your intro passionate, and inspiring to read. Please, if you have time, read some of our threads and posts. I believe that we have a wonderful, loving community here, once you get to know us as we know each other. Below is one of the more sharing threads that I have seen, I think you could encounter a lot of our better selves here.

http://www.soulforce.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1074

I believe that ongoing personal growth is something that we owe to ourselves, and to God. This includes ever more healthy attitudes concerning sex and sexuality, our own, and others. I would love to stay and talk, but I've got a seminar on just that subject to get to soon. Oh, and I KNOW that there are accepting, or open and affirming churches in Boulder. I go to a wonderful UCC church, here in Minneapolis. (See link) I believe that it is all about love and forgiveness, NOT sin and judgement.

http://www.soulforce.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1093

Come back often,, I know that many other members will post to you here.

Peace and Love, Bruce Chris

BruceChris
11-09-2006, 06:04 PM
http://www.soulforce.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1511

And Bless you. Bruce Chris

1engelbythesea
11-09-2006, 09:54 PM
I explained to my children what it meant to be gay...that it was natural and normal, and God created each of us in unique and wonderful ways. I told them that the church their father and I were going to didn't believe this and that we were never going back.

Thank you so much for taking the time to open your heart and post here. I am a 64 yrs old minister, who finally left the church for fear of being found out. As an only child I did not want to hurt my parents, who would have loved me ... but would not have understood. My dad died 14 years ago, and I watched over Mom until she died 18 month ago. I think she would have understood, but after being closeted for so long I got used to being an old maid. I had some relationships during this time, but they were also closeted and we were "good friends and companions" ... a lot easier for us women than for our men. I had lived alone for 24 years, after Mom died I bumped into one of my old time friends. Her Mom died in January, right now we are trying to consolidate 4 households into one, we also had the challenges of people who lived alone for such a long time.
Thank you for your support and understanding. Reading your post brought tears of joy to my eyes. You cannot change who you are, in my late 20's I married to fullfill everyone elses expectations. I realized I could not live a lie and subject children to being raised in a lie. Fortunately there were other problems and I was able to get out of the marriage after 6 month.
I have never had children, my partner and I have sublimated by having pets. Mine, hers, her mom's and my mom's. We worry about getting sick and not being able to make health decisions for each other, we worry about no being able to keep our house if one of us dies. So many good years lost to the fear of being "sinners". Mel is a wonderful man I had the priviledge to met him in person in San Diego last month. I have just finished his book and recoment the last chapter as a vision to come. :pray:
Once again thank you for your courage to post here. Nora

Jennifer5
11-09-2006, 11:16 PM
Welcome!:) Glad to have you here:love:

Lydia
11-16-2006, 11:50 PM
Welcome, Mary.