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Emproph
12-07-2006, 11:52 AM
If not, why not?

If maybe so, what percentage so?

Daniel
12-07-2006, 12:34 PM
One WHAT? My elvish mind wants to know.

Seriously though, if one considers that everything having to do with life seems of a binary nature (we have two vocal folds -yes they look like folds- and two legs and two arms and two legs etc etc), I would say no. We aren't all One.

But seeing that the word had a captial O, well...that's an entirely different matter, isn't it? If this speaks to matters cosmological of the spiritual sort, then you might have a case. There are schools of thought, veering towards universalism (I think there is another thread about that somewhere) which, in some, is called Enlightenment. Supposedly, one in the enlightened state can perceive, if not experience, that Everything is One. Percentage? Well...if one can perceive everything as one that would mean that nothing is left out, right?

Not being in that state at the moment (:rolleyes: ) I can only speculate.

Sure. Everything and everyone is One. Some of us just have a hard time wrapping their heads around the thought. (Time to get out those brain expanders.)

Remember when we went to moon and saw the first photos of earth from space? (Ok. So those of you born in the 70's missed that grainy moment oon TV- sorry about that.) There was much talk about how that view of things would change the world. That hasn't proved to be the case, at least, not yet.

Maybe we all need to get into orbit, one way or another.

Dash
12-07-2006, 12:56 PM
I don't know if we are one. But my Kung Fu (http://www.kungfu-guide.com/23tong.html) heart quotes Caine to say, "I seek only to become a cup. Empty of myself. Filled with oneness."

So I'm saying, "No...in the same way many rivers are not one, but they do flow toward oneness."

[he whispers to the side]
But my "no" is really a "yes"...

:earth:

Daniel
12-07-2006, 01:03 PM
[he whispers to the side]
But my "no" is really a "yes"...


And my yes is really a no!

Around the circle we go, ending up where we began, the very Being of Oneness.

Jennifer5
12-07-2006, 05:17 PM
Don't fully know what you mean by one but I feel my anwser is yes.:love:

Zerbie
12-07-2006, 05:49 PM
Both, darlin' E. :love: :D

Totally utterly fully Yes AND No.

BruceChris
12-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Peace and Love, Bruce Chris

Emproph
12-07-2006, 07:10 PM
1. yes
2. no
3. maybe so
4. huh?

I choose four
Huh. I like it.

Don't fully know what you mean by one but I feel my anwser is yes.:love:Ok but you may want to keep it on the DL for now as far as the whole "Everything is God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_%28concept%29)" thing goes..;)

One WHAT?
One everything.

Maybe we all need to get into orbit, one way or another. Or get out of orbit. We're like spiritual meteors crash landing into Mother Earth consciousness as we're born and live and speak. Like now. :) so I guess that would put us at our perigee, reincarnationally speaking of course, and maybe we all need to orbit one another to reach our apogee, Huh.

I don't know if we are one. But my Kung Fu (http://www.kungfu-guide.com/23tong.html) heart quotes Caine to say, "I seek only to become a cup. Empty of myself. Filled with oneness."

So I'm saying, "No...in the same way many rivers are not one, but they do flow toward oneness."

[he whispers to the side]
But my "no" is really a "yes"...

:earth:Ok Grasshoppa, you win, I thirst no more. We can be separate and one, but only if we are one first.

~~~

ONE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_%28concept%29)

Emproph
12-07-2006, 08:30 PM
One WHAT?
One consciousness.

I think I'm trying to get at what awediot was trying to do in the "Did God make us or did we make Him" thread/poll.

I didn't quite understand what he was driving at at the time. I think the point was essentially that to "make" God would require God first. More practically, If God created all, then God created my thoughts about God, and all my other thoughts for that matter. It can't be the other way around.

Likewise the reality of oneness must come before the "reality" of separateness – of ANY kind.

My issue is that if we truly are all one, then the implications of that fact are profound and are immediate.

marutidas
12-08-2006, 09:38 AM
We are all of one consciousness viewing self subjetively.:rolleyes:

The illusion is that we are independant of one another, think about it, would be able to live with out the people who work, the water works, eletricty plants,the grocery store, the internet? WE are interpendant to everyone else in someway.

Oh, I see Emorph what you asking about,
We'll if you take a look at Wicca, the Goddess gave birth to her son/lover, and give birth again and again, each new year. And some hard core Pagans,(the earth loving ones, not the hedenistic ones) say that the gave birth to the christian God, So Maybe he has always been, or was born of another deity. Who knows, but its fun to think about, quite the paradox.

Jennifer5
12-08-2006, 04:08 PM
...ok..... I take it all back, and return to pure confusion... oh well... at this point I have no anwser.:)

erubre
12-08-2006, 05:22 PM
I would say all are one. There are those wo believe in a "Collective Unconscious" from which we come and to which we return. God is in everyone and God is everywhere. We are each part of God, and God part of us. there is no end for us - things change and take on different form but we and God go on forever.

keltic63
12-08-2006, 05:45 PM
OK, I finally voted, and it was "Yes"

we are all one, and one is in all of us.

I don't like all of us, but I think it's important to love all of us, which I believe we are called to do. If I'm not loving one of us, then I guess I'm hurting myself.

yeah, I think that's true, which makes it even more important to practice nonviolence as Dr. King and Gandhi have taught it.

zorrosdad
12-14-2006, 10:16 PM
There is no seperation!

This is MY belief. We are all one. In my spiritual journey I have discovered that God is all there is therefore we are all of God and we are all one. There is no seperation. :) We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are here to learn and move forward in our experience of our divine self. It's a simple experiment of wanting to know ourself experientially.

Trent

:lol:

Vanessa White
12-15-2006, 10:02 AM
I answered yes, then read the thread, and wondered, and then felt certain of my answer. At first, to say "we are one" sounds oversimplistic and corny to me. But, I do believe, beyond six degrees of separation, which occurs in my life more often than I would like to admit, that we are all interconnected, interdependent, interresponsible (is that a word) on one another. As individual threads, we all make up the fabric of this thing called human existence. We maintain our individual identity, but from a distance, you see the whole package as it works together. To me, that is how it is, even if it is an ideal at best. But thats what works for me for now. Peace all, Vanessa :love:

Deb
12-15-2006, 07:29 PM
Very new agie... I vote no. If we are all one then no one would have responsibilty for their own self. If you kill we are both killers? I don't think so... for at least our human experiece, we walk alone and answer to God alone.