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NonLemming
01-30-2006, 07:00 PM
,,Thoughts?,,
keltic63
01-30-2006, 08:32 PM
is that like "Avenue Q" ??? :D
really. I haven't read it. can you direct me to it online somewhere?
Emproph
01-31-2006, 07:37 AM
How about “Q Bible: The Rainbow pages"? :rainbow:
-Too much?
Honestly, we really should just write our own, except this time let's make a God who is ONLY Love. Think about it, we already have the 'tendency' to 'redefine’ things, why not redefine religious freedom as inherently inclusive? (<that means it was born that way). In fact didn't somebody use that ideal as the basis for something a couple hundred years back?
Anyway, The History Channel has been doing a lot of shows on the bible as of late. They recently had a Two hour show called “Banned from the Bible,” and the other day I saw a show on all the brothers and sisters Jesus likely had (many of them half). It’s true, it was on TV. :D
I got tons of results for Q gospel, this is the first I’ve heard of it though, a couple links below.
The guy in the first link (James M. Robinson), said something interesting; “I am working intensely on reconstructing word for word in Greek that Sayings Gospel, by undoing as best I can the improvements by Matthew and Luke, so as to listen to what Jesus himself had to say.”
-It reminded me of the nature of truth and how 'finding' it isn't about ‘doing’ anything, but is about undoing what's false, the undoing of illusion if you will. Do that and what's always been there becomes abundantly apparent. We can only ‘discover’ or un-cover truth. Truth just ‘IS.’ (I guess I’m alluding to the idea of seeing God literally through logic here, but I digress.)
Bit of a tangent there, sorry. :)
http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=542
http://www.religioustolerance.org/gosp_q1.htm
NonLemming
01-31-2006, 06:56 PM
A Google seach brings up enough to feast on. Enjoy!
BillPLed
01-31-2006, 07:22 PM
"Q" stands for the German word "quelle" which means "source." This is a hypothetical gospel that many scholars do believe actually existed. James M. Robinson writes extensively about it in his latest book called The Gospel of Jesus: In Search of the Original Good News -- a fantastic book by the way. He even has a modern translation of this Gospel in his book.
My understanding of it is that it was "discovered" when scholars were comparing the contents of the synoptic gospels Mark, Matthew and Luke. The consensus is that Mark is the oldest of these three. Matthew and Luke borrowed much of their gospels from Mark. However, there is much that Matthew and Luke have in common that is not found in Mark. When you look at these common elements what you get is a what seems to be a collection of many of the most important sayings of Jesus. Many scholars therefore believe that Matthew and Luke also borrowed from this common source, which has come to be known as the "Sayings Gospel Q" or the "Q Gospel."
When the Gospel of Thomas was discovered it seemed to validate the existence of Q, since Thomas is also a collection of sayings of Jesus. Neither Q not Thomas have any information about Jesus' life or the events that surrounded his death. They are simply collections of his sayings.
Of course, this is a controversial theory, but many of the most respected scholars feel it is true. There is a translation of it in James M. Robinson's book as well as in The Complete Gospels by the fellows of the Jesus Seminar.
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