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Ted Carlin
02-17-2007, 02:21 AM
Hi All,
I'm a long time somewhat activist gay man. Now pushing for the reinstated ban on gay marriages in this city.
I am not a believer in outing and feel that should be a personal choice. I'm out because it can't effect me much anymore, but have seen some real bad effects on others, and had one friend drinking himself to death after his parents disowning him after finding out from a newspaper article. I feel that outing is not a very good thing, but admire those who have the conviction to be openly gay.
I also have taken a stand on the disturbing trend taken by some gay youth to get into bare backing, and forming a misguided belief that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, or that that the epidemic is over, or belongs to my generation and that safe sex doesn't apply to them. I've had too many friends die over the years to let those misguided ideas take root.
I am of course against religious persecution, whether it be just the idea that gay lifestyles are wrong, or any hate crime committed because of anyone’s sexual orientation. I also consider state sanction actions such as Iran’s hangings hate crimes as well.
I truly believe that who is in bed with any consenting adult, providing he, or she is also a consenting adult, is sourly their business, and nobody else’s.
I had one fellow, a few years back tell me that if I was for same sex encounters that I must also sanction having sex with children. Nonsense, I to believe that youth must be protected. Not from their own sexual feelings, but from adult predators. I have always found it interesting, as well as disturbing that although straight questionable encounters are much more common, society still prefers to hype-up the gay ones. I feel it is much more important to get any affected youth treatment in dealing with the particular predatory encounter, than enter into a blame game, which affects the victims future sexual encounters as well as their life. This applies to straight as well as gays.
I feel that responsible sex has been, and can be a very wonderful thing when shared between to people. I myself would feel awful about life in general if someone had perverted that belief, by ether actions or misguided confections. Responsibility is a choice, not our sexual orientation, and persecution for who you are is a problem, but who one chooses to share their life with shouldn't be one. Relationships have enough of their own problems to be worked out without some religious zealot getting involved.
I guess what I'm for is fixing what needs fixing and leaving alone that which should work fine.
I’m always interested in other’s feelings on any of te above subecs
I hope to meet many of you over the years ahead.
Ted

Ted Carlin
02-17-2007, 03:22 AM
Hi All,
My thoughts on a few things.
I'm an, out for a long time, older gay man. Somewhat of an activist, now pushing for reversal of the reinstated ban on gay marriages in this city of San Francisco.
I am not a believer in outing and feel that should be a personal choice. I'm out because it can't effect me much anymore, but I have seen some real damaging effects on others from being ousted. I even had one friend drink himself to death after having his parents disown him after finding out from a newspaper article that he was gay. I feel that outing is not a very good thing, but admire those, very much, who have the conviction to come out and be openly gay.
I also have taken a stand against the disturbing trend taken by some of the gay youth of today to get into barebacking, (having unprotected sex). Some are forming a misguided belief that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, or that that the epidemic is over, and was a problem that belongs to my generation and that safe sex doesn't apply to them. I've had too many friends die over the years loose their lives to let those misguided ideas take root.
I do believe it is a disease not God's retribution on the gay community. In Africa it is a much more of a straight disease, and I don't feel they had it coming ether. It's just a very nasty, and cruel virus.
I am of course against religious persecution, whether it be just the idea that gay lifestyles are wrong, or that any hate crime committed against us is alright because of our sexual orientation. I also consider state sanction actions such as Iran’s hangings hate crimes as well.
I truly believe that who is in bed with any other consenting adult, providing he, or she is also a consenting adult, is sourly their business, and nobody else’s.
I had one fellow, a few years back tell me that if I was for same sex encounters that I must also sanction having sex with children. Nonsense, I too believe that youth must be protected. Not from their own sexual feelings, but from adult predators.
I have always found it disturbing and somewhat interesting, that although straight questionable encounters of this sort are much more common, society still prefers to hype-up the gay ones. I feel it is much more important to get any affected youth treatment in dealing with their particular predatory encounter, than enter into a blame game, which affects the victims future sexual encounters as well as the rest of their lives as much as the crime itself. This applies to the straight as well as the gay victims.
I feel that responsible sex can be, and has always been a very wonderful thing when shared between two people. I myself would feel awful about life in general if someone had perverted that belief in me earlier in life, ether by actions, or misguided confections.
Responsibility is a choice, not our sexual orientation, and persecution for who you are is a problem, but who one chooses to share their life with shouldn't be. Relationships have enough of their own problems to work out without some religious zealot getting involved.
I guess what I'm really for is fixing what needs fixing and leaving alone that which should work fine.
I’m always interested in other’s feelings on any of the above subjects.
I hope to hear from, and meet many of you over the years ahead.
Ted - San Francisco, CA

keltic63
02-17-2007, 08:33 AM
Welcome to Soulforce Ted,

I merged both your threads since they had the same title, and similar content. As a member here, you have the option of editing your posts. Take a moment to look over the "General Forum Usage" and "Reading and Posting Messages" FAQ's HERE (http://www.soulforce.org/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_vb_board_usage)

Glad to have you here, Ted, jump in on any the discussions.

Zerbie
02-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Hi Ted,

Welcome.
I think you'll like it here.

belladonnacordial
02-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Hi Ted! I completely agree. Those people who equate consenting adult sex with the most bizarre, disgusting, outlandish practices like Abu Graab and ignoring Katrina victims- well, make you wonder about them is all I'm saying. Welcome! I look forward to chatting with you. Love, Donna