7 Point Plan

[Gregory_de_Bois]

Beware, the plan that Ms. Harvey proposes is dangerous and unhealthy. I love the way they constantly say that homosexuality is constantly being shown to NOT be inborn. It almost makes me laugh, but then I remember they are serious.:'(

I just thought I would share this with you all.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/sep/06092604.html

[TigerXero]

The sad thing is, there are probably a lot of Christian parents who DO believe this, and this is making the lives of their GLBT kids hell. *Sigh* It never ends... :'(

[tpdncr4christ]

This message was directed towards the youth, so I feel as if I am obligated to respond to Ms Harvey's 7 step plan. I appologize for my sense of sarcasm... but I'm a little angry at stupidity right now.

1. Begin a serious Bible study for your youth group on homosexuality, reading and discussing the Scriptures that pertain to this issue. They are:

Genesis, chapters 18 and 19 (chapter 18 is helpful for a broader context); Leviticus 18: 22 and 20: 13; Deuteronomy 23: 17; 1 Kings 15:12; Matthew 19:3-9; Romans 1: 18-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 4: 3-8; 2 Peter 2 (whole chapter); Jude 7-8; Revelation 22:15.

Soul Force handles this one just fine, no need to Biblicaly disect it here.

2. Repeat, and repeat again, and repeat again, that there is no evidence in Scripture or in science that homosexuality is inborn. This is not an inevitable condition for certain unlucky people, but is a developmental desire that may feel “natural” to some but ultimately is changeable. Scripture implies this many times. This is critically important to state unequivocally and often, that God created people as males and females and this created order is foundational to human life, to the revelation of God and to having a spirit that can be in close relationship with Christ. If you need more scientific ammunition, there are many fine sources available on the Internet. One very good summary of the scientific findings (and lack of evidence of genetic factors), is called “Born or Bred? Science Does Not Support the Claim that Homosexuality is Genetic,” from Concerned Women for America’s Culture and Family Institute, at http://www.cwfa.org/articledisplay.asp?id=5458&departmen...

There is no scientific proof period, for or against, whether it is born or bred, nature or nuture. We only minutely understand the human genome, and it is estimated it will be another 20 years before we have even begun to comprehend and manipulate DNA. We can't, with our limited knowledge, say we know what is genetic and what is not. We can only guess and hypothosize.

3. Put homosexuality in the broader context of sexual sin in general, showing how Scripture points to the weakness for sin all humans have especially as we stray from God’s created order and His teachings. For instance, Leviticus 18 describes the decadent sexual practices of Israel’s neighboring idolatrous cultures, and it’s not a simple matter of “gay” and “straight.” A wide range of sexual corruption lies outside the commandment against adultery. Increasingly today, “pansexuality” is being encouraged and this is consistent with pagan, ungodly sexuality as depicted both in Scripture and in ancient pagan history and archaeology. This provides one more evidence that Scripture reveals timeless truths. Without the light of Christ, many things begin to seem acceptable, but His truth brings it into focus.

I love this one. You can only have sex, in the missionary position, when you are married. You don't have to love em' to screw em' just put a ring on her finger. Two men can't get married... that just doesn't make sense. So of course, two men can't have sex, cause they can't get married. Duh...

4. Make sure your youth know that no one is condemned forever through homosexual behavior or any other sin. What condemns a person is refusing to accept Christ as Saviour and lack of repentance, while willfully, deliberately continuing to sin. This is a good place to discuss the number of former homosexuals who are now publicly telling their stories.

O don't worry... you won't be condemed if you like guys. You'll just burn in hell for a while. This is a good place to discuss the number of former heterosexuals... o wait, that's impossible, straight people can't turn gay! Only gay people can turn straight.

5.Also emphasize that Christians do not have to apologize for what the Bible says about homosexuality. All Christians should be kind, polite, and civil to others, but we need to stop apologizing and giving special recognition to homosexual sin or those involved. Sentences that start with, “I’m not homophobic, but....” are concessions to a framework of thinking that those advocating homosexuality have developed and our culture often now accepts, but Christians should not. Those who are forcing homosexuality into our schools, laws and churches -- especially those who claim to be Christian-- are twisting the truth and will be held responsible for seriously damaging people’s lives and the body of Christ. The message prohibiting homosexuality is not only good, but necessary as part of God’s careful, protective provision for us.

In other words, don't say you're sorry. Its rude.

6. Now, here’s the tricky part. Teens need to have some idea about what homosexuals do, and how physically destructive and high risk this behavior often is. How can this be communicated without getting overly graphic? It’s important to cover HIV risks, the lack of protection of condoms, the risks of oral sex, and the risks of anal sex. Also, one should mention the highly promiscuous nature of adult, homosexual lifestyles as most live them. Now—how is your church going to do this? Pray about what amount of detail you feel is appropriate, but given the astonishingly low amount of useful information our kids get from schools and the media on the physical risks of homosexuality, some of this needs to be addressed.

Its tricky because: More women have contracted HIV then men, and more and more straight people are catching the disease. I think she must not have done all of her anatomical research on gay sex, cause right up there is what we call a G-spot. Yes, it exists. Just like in women. Of course, however, its not natural. God just put it there for unnatural reasons.

7. Finally, we need to caution our kids against friendships with people practicing homosexual behavior, and with those who condone it, particularly those who call themselves Christians. Acquaintances are fine, but this is too explosive an issue on a same sex basis, and too great a spiritual test, for young people to be immersed in. It’s a serious mistake to believe they are mature enough to be thrust into situations which the enemy will use to confuse them. And the Bible cautions even adults of such friendships. The pertinent Scripture here is 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.

Because we all know, Jesus only hung out with the Church kids.

[Daniel]

Oh yeah.....the piece is ripe for comments- like this one:

6. Now, here’s the tricky part. Teens need to have some idea about what homosexuals do, and how physically destructive and high risk this behavior often is.

Often is? Does that mean not always? ;)

Oh my goodness! We aren't talking about loving making are we? Mon dieu! Whatever you do don't frighten the horses!

If the lady was a wee bit more educated, she would know that everyone should practice safesex. Doesn't she know that they are more heterosexuals with AIDS in Africa than gay men at the moment? I suppose not. The problem isn't sex, but lack of information.

[Gregory_de_Bois]

The sad thing is, there are probably a lot of Christian parents who DO believe this, and this is making the lives of their GLBT kids hell. *Sigh* It never ends... :'(

yeah, like my own. Ah, dear.

[Emproph]

Linda Harvey of Mission America:
1. Begin a serious Bible study for your youth group on homosexuality, reading and discussing the Scriptures that pertain to this issue. They are [among others]: Leviticus 20:13
Leviticus 20:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:13;&version=31;):
13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

So is she suggesting that homosexuals should actually be put to death, or just that it should be discussed?

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A Satirical Seven-Point Plan to Protect GAY YOUTH Against OPPRESSION
http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2006/09/a-satirical-sev/