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Bob Smith
03-21-2007, 12:36 PM
Hello,

My name is Bob Smith and I live in Atlanta.

My interest in Soulforce was sparked by an article written by Jeff Lutes in the Journal Constition newspaper today.

It made me want to cheer his honesty. We do need to stand up to the religious forces that continue to blame the GLBT community for all marital and relationship problems. Additionally, Jeff is correct in stating that we also need to point to untruths and what the christian right interests are in the furthering of this agenda.

The constant focus by the Religious Right on the GLBT community is related to furthering a political agenda. It has no basis in either religious or scientific studies.

There is an inference by the "christian" community that they have a greater relationship with the diety than others of us who are also christian. It is difficult to believe that this group could be elevated to a higher level and have greater insight than other religions. There is simply no basis to believe any religious group is more qualified to speak and interpret what all religious agenda should be.

Hopefully, Soulforce will continue to be a part of an ongoing drive that will speak out against a time worn political agenda and direct a focus toward truth and honesty.

u-dog
03-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Thanks for posting. do you think you could post a link to Jeff's editorial? We would all be interested in reading it.

Dave

nmwolfboy
03-21-2007, 06:24 PM
Welcome Bob :wave:

Gee, my last name is Smith, too. Think we're related? :lol:

<snip!> We do need to stand up to the religious forces that continue to blame the GLBT community for all marital and relationship problems. Additionally, Jeff is correct in stating that we also need to point to untruths and what the christian right interests are in the furthering of this agenda.

The constant focus by the Religious Right on the GLBT community is related to furthering a political agenda. It has no basis in either religious or scientific studies.

There is an inference by the "christian" community that they have a greater relationship with the diety than others of us who are also christian. It is difficult to believe that this group could be elevated to a higher level and have greater insight than other religions. There is simply no basis to believe any religious group is more qualified to speak and interpret what all religious agenda should be.


You get an "AMEN!" from me!

Pax :dove:

scott

Zerbie
03-21-2007, 08:55 PM
I want to read it, too!

Anyone got a link?

Jamie McDaniel
03-23-2007, 08:02 AM
Here's the link to a copy of the op-ed over at BeliefNet.

Loving Us into Extinction (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/214/story_21440_1.html)

And welcome to Soulforce, Bob!

Rick336
03-23-2007, 11:01 AM
It's time we as Americans confront the primary source of anti-gay discrimination in America: religion-based bigotry. We must reclaim our own faith and steadfastly refuse to allow fundamentalists to act as if they speak for all people of faith or all Christians.

Right on!!!

What a wonderful article.

Thank you Jeff!

Rick Hunter

BruceChris
03-23-2007, 12:18 PM
First of all, I do not find it necessary to believe in evil to explain how messed up the world is. Human stupidity more than covers it, as far as I can see.

But let's assume that evil does exist. Evil = Fear + Ignorance - pretty much covers it, as far as I'm concerned. Taking that approach actually makes more sense, if you do not believe in Satan. As human beings, or children of God, we have almost unlimited access to both fear and ignorance.

My next question concerns this business of being holier than thou, or "My God tells me that I am saved, but you are not". To me, this would seem to be somewhere between the sins of Idolatry, and Election. I assume that most of you have encountered the person who says that God loves him more that you. That is the sin of Election.

Concerning the thought that CC's may someday come to understand that one's sexual identity, and orientation are present at birth will probably take a Long time to sink in. The science is far more subtle, and the subject being studied is more subtle.

I wonder just how long after Copernacus and Galileo it was before it actually became difficult to find a churchman who would still claim that the Sun did indeed revolve around the Earth?

Creationists? 'nough said.

Thoughts? -- Peace and Love, Bruce Chris

Zerbie
03-23-2007, 12:58 PM
Excellent writing, Jeff. Way to go!