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katie_davis1
03-22-2007, 09:53 PM
"Love doesn't run away or give up when things get difficult, as they are sure to get at times. It hangs in there and with God's help it gently teaches what is right and true. Love is more concerned about the other person. It will try to understand why they act the way they do and if possible, try to help the person. Love will even endure a lot to help someone find their way to God.
The best ever example of this is Jesus. He put up with the arguing of His disciples, and with crowds of people constantly wanting to be with Him. That was long-suffering, not enduring. But when He was arrested, beaten, made fun of, and then crucified, that was His love enduring all. He endured it all because someone had to pay the price. Someone had to die. Christ endured all of it for us because of His great love for us.
I'm not suggesting that we let people physically beat us up, but we can endure the unkind words and thoughtlessness of others so that we can help them find their Answer. We don't run to someone else and tell them of the unkind actions or words, and try to get them on our side against the other person. We also don't put on long faces or sigh loudly, hoping someone will see our suffering. We endure it quietly, knowing that we are paying a meaningful price for something of extraordinary value. The minute we open our mouths and complain about the other person, we lose all chances of helping them - we ourselves are now damaging the possibility of them being helped, while we further diminish ourselves.
People are hurtful and unkind because they either don't understand or because they're hurting in some way. Remembering that will help take the sting out of their words and actions and we will then be able to find ways to educate or help relieve their suffering. Love takes the focus off ourselves and our suffering and puts it on others, which is the most effective, meaningful and self-sustaining way to ease our suffering."
~Sandra Matthews-Sarve~

This is one of those quotes that continually plays in my mind throughout my day. I hate that I so badly want to be loving all the time, and then I catch myself sitting in class thinking in my head "what the heck is she wearing." I'm so blessed that Christ has saved us. I feel that so many people in the Christian Church have really made things so much more confusing, when reality is all we need to do is love. If we truly love God and love our neighbors (the 2 greatest commandments) everything else would fall into play. I know its so much easier said than done; I just find it encouraging when I am debating an issue or just living daily life. I hope that this quote blesses many of your lives as it has mine. (Man, I sure wish I would have written that) ;)

Zerbie
03-22-2007, 11:58 PM
This is one of those quotes that continually plays in my mind throughout my day. I hate that I so badly want to be loving all the time, and then I catch myself sitting in class thinking in my head "what the heck is she wearing." ;)

:lol: Katie, if that's the worst thought in your head, you're in no trouble! Though I hafta say its juxtaposition with the loftiness of the quote is amusing.

I liked the quote a lot. I think, given the nature of the activism on this board though, you might expect to hear some folks weigh in on it being suggestive of total passivity. I found the second half of it so, myself. If nothing is said or done in response to harm and hurt, then that passivity can't help the other person to see their error, either. If I don't know that what I've said or done has upset someone's feelings, I'm bound to repeat it and never know the reaction. There is a middle road somewhere, the question is finding it.

katie_davis1
03-23-2007, 02:08 AM
Thanks for your response, I love feedback. Maybe I'm nieve, but I guess I have faith that love really can conquer all. In my small sufferings in life I am able to look back and really see God's hand in it all, and I guess to me He is love as well as Jesus is proof (to me anyways) that love is "the greatest of these."
We are all on our own journey, and thats what is so great about life. I guess for me at this point, I just see love as the only answer.

u-dog
03-23-2007, 02:13 PM
"Pushed back" against unjust and unloving persons and institutions. He overturned the tables of the money changers, he scolded his disciples, he did everything but grab the pharisees by the lapels and shake them, he told parables that were and were INTENDED to be totally OUTRAGEOUS... to totally annoy and offend people into seeing life differently. So to be LOVING is not the same as being "NICE". just my 2 cents

Pablo Rafael
03-24-2007, 10:07 AM
Katie,

Thanks for the quote.

I think you have hit on the key teaching of all Christianity. If we can keep LOVE forever at the beginning and core of our religion, we cannot go wrong. When the Bible says, "God is love." I think it is not just metaphoric, but more a statement of actual physical fact. What is the substance of God? I think LOVE comes closer to explaining God than any other word.

Love is not a weak or wimpy force. It is not passivity. Love is how God saved us through Christ's death on the cross. Love leads us to understand, to take action, to give of ourselves, to forgive others and to forgive ourselves.

Tu Amigo, Pablo