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ladyinred
03-24-2007, 10:29 PM
Whatever brings your higher good and is loving to yourself and others.. Simply put..What ever will bring you peace and joy.. whatever is kind and compassionate toward yourself and others.. What does not harm another in other words... I think I like Margaret Paul's definition of harm, a willful and malicious intent to do harm to others or self...A biblical quote ,Love does no harm to a neighbor.. it doesn't seek out the destruction of others...it doesn't malign them, it is not malevolent... Here are verses taken from the Jesus in India website and I think it makes perfect sense. 15 "Wherefore I say unto you, Leave your idols and perform not rites which separate you from your Father, associating you with the priests from whom the heavens have turned away.

16 "For it is they who have led you from the true God and whose superstitions and cruelties conduce to the perversion of your soul and the loss of all moral sense."

12 "Enter into your temple, into your heart. Illumine it with good thoughts and the patience and immovable confidence which you should have in your Father.

13 "And your sacred vessels, they are your hands and your eyes. See and do that which is agreeable to God, for in doing good to your neighbor you accomplish a rite which embellishes the temple wherein dwells he who gave you life.

14 "For God has created you in his own likeness-innocent, with pure souls and hearts filled with goodness, destined not for the conception of evil schemes but made to be sanctuaries of love and justice.

15 "Wherefore I say unto you, sully not your hearts, for the Supreme Being dwells therein eternally.
16 "If you wish to accomplish works marked with love or piety, do them with an open heart and let not your actions be governed by calculations or the hope of gain.

17 "For such actions would not help to your salvation, and you would fall into that state of moral degradation where theft, lying, and murder pass for generous deeds."

21 "As to the laws of Mossa, I have endeavored to establish them in the hearts of men. And I say unto you that you do not understand their real meaning, for it is not vengeance but mercy that they teach; only the sense of these laws has been perverted
"Help the poor, support the weak, do ill to no one, and covet not that which thou hast not and which thou seest belongeth to another."

ladyinred
03-24-2007, 11:04 PM
15 "Wherefore I say unto you, Leave your idols and perform not rites which separate you from your Father, associating you with the priests from whom the heavens have turned away.

16 "For it is they who have led you from the true God and whose superstitions and cruelties conduce to the perversion of your soul and the loss of all moral sense."

12 "Enter into your temple, into your heart. Illumine it with good thoughts and the patience and immovable confidence which you should have in your Father.
I've seen the use of the word perversion in the bible. and none that really pertain to sexuality as I know it, of course I haven't read the bible from page to page... but what I have read about the text on perversion that is that which pertain to oppression and violence and malevolent behavior... and cruelty... I'm not going to post quotes or scripture here but I've read in proverbs, psalms and other scripture in the new testament... what is Jesus saying that is perverse here? Injustice, lack of mercy, lack of kindness. the devisors of evil schemes(those designed to intentionally harm others in other words..) the loss of all moral sense..the knowledge that how we treat others conveys a truth about ourselves....it pertains to the golden rule... Those who like to indulge in their destructive fantasies and malignant attitudes toward others... have lost all sense of what is truly ethical or right.