LGBT Adoption Ban in OH?

[SolInvictus]

The OH House of Rep.'s has just put through a bill to propose banning adoption rights and parental rights in a dispute (i.e. divorce) for LGBT individuals and couples. OH has already passed an anti-marriage amendment, and this is now what representatives are proposing. Despite the continued evidence supporting LGBT adoptions, prejudice is clouding people's minds. I request for prayer & support in preventing the state from banning LGBT civil rights even further.
Source of News: Equality Ohio

[Zerbie]

Let us know if we can help concretely in any way too.

Is this proposition via the legislature? Or a ballot initiative?

Seems timely that you should mention this now, since, and this is irrelevent but I felt like sharing, we're debating gay adoption in my French conversation class. I was supposed to be there right now, but I am home sick. Paying attention to the kids arguing against it, it seems they don't have a logical argument to stand on, so how are entire states justifying such a ban? Seems clear that the real loss is suffered by the children who need loving homes and stand to be deprived of them if a ridiculous piece of legislation like this gets passed. Years ago when I lived in TX this issue came up. I sent a hand-written letter to the governor asking him to change his position. HAHAHAHA! As IF George W was going to do that. To this date, I wonder if he ever even saw or touched that letter I wrote to him 7 years ago.

[SolInvictus]

Possibly legislative, but the previous anti-gay marriage amendment was done by ballot...

Thank you, as always, Zerbie. ((Hugs))

[Zerbie]

Zerbie has a blonde moment - you told us the OH House was initiating this adoption ban through the legislature and I missed it! Thanks for responding anyway, heheh! Hugs right back atcha, Sol!!!!!

I assume Equality OH has a significant membership base to alert and have them all contact state reps to oppose the thing. And we forumites could all personally contact people we know to put the alert out to our friends, families, and allies in OH to have them contact their reps, also. Let us know when this thing hits a committee hearing and we'll jump. At least, I will put notice out there to my friends and ask them to contact friends in OH.

Theoretically, I find the events in OH interesting b/c I'm fairly certain the marriage amendment passed there contains almost exactly the same wording as the proposed amendment we are fighing in AZ. Therefore, whatever spinoffs and Next Steps the anti-gays take in OH are a basis for us to speculate about what could happen here if the amendment were to pass here as well. Like, first they banned marriage and rolled back partner benefits, next comes a battle over domestic violence protections, then a battle for adoption rights. . .and so on. I think there's hardly any question that winning marriage bans emboldens them to come after *even more* basic things, like taking away rights and protections we may ACTUALLY have already, (although in some cases, we don't even have basic protections, depending upon your state and municipality).

Hmm - looks like I'm rambling incoherently now. Better get back to bed and sleep off this fever before I stop making any sense at all. Hey guys - look at the psychedlic pink elephant trumpeting through my room! Oh, hey, wait-a-minute!!! :lol:

[NonLemming]

Hmmm. Ohio & Florida. What do these two state have in common? Hmmm. Corrupted votes? Who's to say? Most of our populus doesn't remember 2004 , much less 2000. We have to keep fighting, but we DO deserve the hand we allowed. It's pathetic.

Remind me never to populate or give money through tourism to Ohio.

[Zerbie]

I read that the measure got killed. If I recall correctly a republican representative called it too divisive! This is certainly better news than I had hoped. Though I hear the bill's sponsor plans to keep bringing it back. What a mess.

[SolInvictus]

Agreed NonLemming: there has been much debate & controversey concerning the voting results in both states. In Columbus, OH; it is suspected many votes were not registered as it is one of the most liberal cities in the state. Likewise, other major cities also opposed the amendment. Luckily, in Cincinnati, voters were able to overturn the anti-gay amendment within city limits. I have to agree both gov. admin.'s in both states are corrupt, as you said as in 2000 & 2004 elections proved.

Zerbie: Yes, luckily Equality Ohio is a large organization, and hopefully encourage people to fight against continued anti-LGBT measures. Good luck in preventing the anti-gay laws in your state too. Such hope can be found from history: before the Civil War, a law was passed that viewed African Americans as 3/5 of a person in counting the population in electing state representatives. Fortunantly, the Gettysburg Address a few years later, and other anti-slavery laws overturned that original law.

Best wishes to everyone.

[Jennifer5]

what a horrible thing that would be to see adoption rights taken away... if only people understood what damage they would be doing... all those kids with-out homes...and all those people who want kids...

As for the 2000 and 2004 elections... that still suprised me that they didn't make a bigger deal about those votes not adding up.

[SolInvictus]

I agree w/ you Jennifer. Hopefully, this proposed bill will not pass in both houses (senate & house of rep's). Yeah, I have several gay & lesbian friends who have adopted children & happy in their new families. I hope to adopt someday myself...time will tell, I guess.

[Jennifer5]

I guess we just have to hope for the best:disagree:

[SolInvictus]

I agree w/ you - just do our best.

[SolInvictus]

Link: http://www.gaypeopleschronicle.com/stories06/february/0217061.htm

Details the current status of the proposed bill, which I hope does not pass or get into both congressional houses.

[Zerbie]

That's infuriating and insulting. Especially extending the bill to exclude homes with any lgbts living there, including other children?!?! WHAT good do they delude themselves into believing this would accomplish?

Thanks for the update. I'm going to circulate this article to folks around here as a Look What Happens Next After They Pass A Marriage Ban notice. Grrr.

[SolInvictus]

I know - it is infuriating. It is an obvious proposed bill based on prejudice and discrimination without just or constitutional cause.

[Zerbie]

http://365gay.com/newscon06/02/022406gopadopt.htm

I'm not the only one to have that ridiculous thought! Haha!

[SolInvictus]

Latest update: http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/columns/daily

[SolInvictus]

http://365gay.com/newscon06/02/022406gopadopt.htm

I'm not the only one to have that ridiculous thought! Haha!

LOL! Thats great and gets the point across.