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Daniel
06-11-2007, 08:53 PM
This is either really funny or really offensive, I can't decide which. Perhaps both?

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_159222541.html


Jun 8, 2007 9:03 pm US/Pacific

Pentagon Confirms It Sought To Build A 'Gay Bomb'

Hank Plante
Reporting

(CBS 5) BERKELEY A Berkeley watchdog organization that tracks military spending said it uncovered a strange U.S. military proposal to create a hormone bomb that could purportedly turn enemy soldiers into homosexuals and make them more interested in sex than fighting.

Pentagon officials on Friday confirmed to CBS 5 that military leaders had considered, and then subsquently rejected, building the so-called "Gay Bomb."

Edward Hammond, of Berkeley's Sunshine Project, had used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain a copy of the proposal from the Air Force's Wright Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio.

As part of a military effort to develop non-lethal weapons, the proposal suggested, "One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior."

The documents show the Air Force lab asked for $7.5 million to develop such a chemical weapon.

"The Ohio Air Force lab proposed that a bomb be developed that contained a chemical that would cause enemy soliders to become gay, and to have their units break down because all their soldiers became irresistably attractive to one another," Hammond said after reviwing the documents.

"The notion was that a chemical that would probably be pleasant in the human body in low quantities could be identified, and by virtue of either breathing or having their skin exposed to this chemical, the notion was that soliders would become gay," explained Hammond.

The Pentagon told CBS 5 that the proposal was made by the Air Force in 1994.

"The Department of Defense is committed to identifying, researching and developing non-lethal weapons that will support our men and women in uniform," said a DOD spokesperson, who indicated that the "gay bomb" idea was quickly dismissed.

However, Hammond said the government records he obtained suggest the military gave the plan much stronger consideration than it has acknowledged.

"The truth of the matter is it would have never come to my attention if it was dismissed at the time it was proposed," he said. "In fact, the Pentagon has used it repeatedly and subsequently in an effort to promote non-lethal weapons, and in fact they submitted it to the highest scientific review body in the country for them to consider."

Military officials insisted Friday to CBS 5 that they are not currently working on any such idea and that the past plan was abandoned.

Gay community leaders in California said Friday that they found the notion of a "gay bomb" both offensive and almost laughable at the same time.

"Throughout history we have had so many brave men and women who are gay and lesbian serving the military with distinction," said Geoff Kors of Equality California. "So, it's just offensive that they think by turning people gay that the other military would be incapable of doing their job. And its absurd because there's so much medical data that shows that sexual orientation is immutable and cannot be changed."

(© MMVII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

RM260boy
06-11-2007, 09:27 PM
i saw the reports on this and the only thing that i could think with my perverse mind was - homosexuals are welcome in the enemy's army - but even that makes it worse. so i left it alone

u-dog
06-11-2007, 09:33 PM
All I know is that I used to fantasize about this bomb all the time in Junior and senior High especially in gym class and the locker room. Sigh. All the really good ideas come to late

RM260boy
06-11-2007, 09:35 PM
All I know is that I used to fantasize about this bomb all the time in Junior and senior High especially in gym class and the locker room. Sigh. All the really good ideas come to late

thanks that got me a better spin going in my head now:D

u-dog
06-11-2007, 09:39 PM
don't mention it ! ;)

scott snedeker
06-11-2007, 09:48 PM
Does anyone remember Vincent Price in Dr Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs? circa 1966?:lol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Drgoodfootos.jpg

Zerbie
06-11-2007, 10:48 PM
Okay, like, hello? Anybody else thinking that as soon as those enemy combatants nap off the afterglow, all those newly gay and infatuated guys motivated by powerful hormone-altered emotions and feelings of invincibility would subsequently totally DESTROY our forces?

Please tell me this wasn't actually under serious consideration by the military.

RM260boy
06-11-2007, 11:02 PM
zerbie, from the sources that i have read - the pentagon has owned up - to the gay bomb idea. although i don't think that it got past that stage:(

i just have to keep thinking of it going off in a locker room full of hunks

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-arnstein/gay-bomb-considered-by-ai_b_50675.html

just another link real quick

tdogg
06-11-2007, 11:15 PM
Gay bomb? US Military idea? 1994? Wow.

Offensive, yes. Hilarious, yes (something right out of SNL).

Stupid, yes.

Surprising, ummm...not really.

Brilliant, yes in locker rooms, and airplanes, and just about anywhere. Say, what about the White House????? Maybe they could actually get some good things going...like passing the hate crimes, bill, marriage equality, federal protections and priviledges for EVERYONE....:weee:

BrianB
06-11-2007, 11:16 PM
Wright-Patterson air force base is only a few miles from my home. It is the base where the "gay bomb" was researched. It appears to have been a very serious project at one time.

Hmm, perhaps there is something in the water here turning people gay!???? :rolleyes::DThat would give my mother something to blame for my orientation.:rainbow:

Daniel
06-11-2007, 11:28 PM
All I know is that I used to fantasize about this bomb all the time in Junior and senior High especially in gym class and the locker room. Sigh. All the really good ideas come to late

Gee. I was so closeted I didn't have a clue.

Does anyone remember Vincent Price in Dr Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs? circa 1966?:lol:


Oh....I see that Fabian was in this movie. Sorry I missed this one. I think I was only 9 at the time. :rolleyes:

This whole gay bomb thing reminds me of Dr. Strangelove (did see that one!) Leave it to a bunch of scientists to think that a chemical could make a guy wigged out on sex and vulnerable. As if only het sex makes you strong manly men.

Haven't they been to Chelsea?

What they'd really like to do is make themselves irresistable to women.

RM260boy
06-11-2007, 11:33 PM
it's just my thoughts ... but i think it actually could be acheived.

in my opinion, the default setting for a fetus is female, and the default setting for attraction is towards masculine, so if you could find the straight gene and block it chemicaly, well.... flamers!!!!

u-dog
06-12-2007, 08:51 AM
it's just my thoughts ... but i think it actually could be acheived.

in my opinion, the default setting for a fetus is female, and the default setting for attraction is towards masculine, so if you could find the straight gene and block it chemicaly, well.... flamers!!!!


Could we package it in small aerosol cans and market it heavily? We could make a ton of money. THink of all the uses

1. the gym
2. disrupting ex-gay conferences
3. amusing ones self at conservative evangelical church services

The possibilities are truly endless!

dsdrane
06-12-2007, 09:09 AM
This is truly beyond the rabbit-proof fence.

And utterly divine.

Only in America!:applause:

antonyh
06-12-2007, 10:13 AM
At first I thought this report was a joke, but it appears to be true. I find it disturbing because the notion behind the bomb is that same-sex attraction among enemy troops will cause a break down of order that will weaken the effectiveness of the enemy's army. It is the same notion used to keep LGBT people out of the military except it is in a weapon and used against the enemy.

Let's say that this bomb could actually be made. I think what would really happen is that the enemy would panic about the feelings that they discovered toward other soldiers. In otherwords, the real aim of the bomb would be to exploit internalized homophobia toward a military end.

dsdrane
06-12-2007, 10:26 AM
In otherwords, the real aim of the bomb would be to exploit internalized homophobia toward a military end.

...and there'd be a run on Size 11 pumps!

(Just sayin'.)

u-dog
06-12-2007, 10:39 AM
...and there'd be a run on Size 11 pumps!

(Just sayin'.)


David David David !! You are SUCH a funny guy! :lol::lol:

C'mon brothers and sisters!! THIS IS FUNNY. PERIOD. The only thing about this story that is worrisome or appalling is that GROWN UP MEN TOOK IT SERIOUSLY ENOUGH TO SAY IT OUT LOUD !!!

This story is NOT anti-gay! Its just Anti-smart person (which I will admit includes an AWFUL lot of gay folks)

Ridicule and hilarity is the ONLY appropriate response and WHO, I ask you, are better qualified then glbt to ridicule this nonsense? "Camp" was created specifically for this situation.

antonyh
06-12-2007, 10:45 AM
David David David !! You are SUCH a funny guy! :lol::lol:

C'mon brothers and sisters!! THIS IS FUNNY. PERIOD. The only thing about this story that is worrisome or appalling is that GROWN UP MEN TOOK IT SERIOUSLY ENOUGH TO SAY IT OUT LOUD !!!

This story is NOT anti-gay! Its just Anti-smart person (which I will admit includes an AWFUL lot of gay folks)

Ridicule and hilarity is the ONLY appropriate response and WHO, I ask you, are better qualified then glbt to ridicule this nonsense? "Camp" was created specifically for this situation.

You should watch the video clip that accompanies the story above. It includes people discharged under don't ask don't tell. They think the gay bomb is offensive.

Hey, I do see the funny side for about 0.000001 seconds :)

u-dog
06-12-2007, 10:49 AM
You should watch the video clip that accompanies the story above. It includes people discharged under don't ask don't tell. They think the gay bomb is offensive.

Hey, I do see the funny side for about 0.000001 seconds :)


I never said that it was impossible for gay people to be humorless but... what's the point? You may as well be straight.

antonyh
06-12-2007, 10:54 AM
I never said that it was impossible for gay people to be humorless but... what's the point? You may as well be straight.

I'll try my best to see the humor in the gay bomb...I promise :lol:

u-dog
06-12-2007, 10:58 AM
I'll try my best to see the humor in the gay bomb...I promise :lol:


Good boy! Think about this. It could completely redefine the term: "friendly fire"

antonyh
06-12-2007, 10:59 AM
Good boy! Think about this. It could completely redefine the term: "friendly fire"

Now you have me laughing :lol:

BrentRichards
06-12-2007, 02:04 PM
Posting this for the relevant end bit that begins around 4:20 ... couldn't find a shorter clip, but the rest is funny, too ... fair warning, STRONG LANGUAGE (lots of F-bombs)

qPML-n1kRnY

Renaissancefan98
06-12-2007, 02:48 PM
At first I thought this report was a joke, but it appears to be true. I find it disturbing because the notion behind the bomb is that same-sex attraction among enemy troops will cause a break down of order that will weaken the effectiveness of the enemy's army. It is the same notion used to keep LGBT people out of the military except it is in a weapon and used against the enemy.

Let's say that this bomb could actually be made. I think what would really happen is that the enemy would panic about the feelings that they discovered toward other soldiers. In otherwords, the real aim of the bomb would be to exploit internalized homophobia toward a military end.

Seems like someone should tell them that being gay doesn't mean being a wimp,because Richard I the lionhearted ,Alexander the Great and the late Mark Bingham were gay, but all of them were manly.