My Position: The left is just as predisposed to hypocrisy as the right (politically)

[Progo35]

This is something that has truly bothered me lately but that I don't have the time to expound upon at this moment. Any thoughts?

[Zerbie]

My husband just withdrew his affiliation with the democratic party because they refused to stand by their demand for a troop withdrawal date. He's now an independent voter, like me.

[Progo35]

Right there with you-I've been an independent since I began voting in the 2000 election. More to come later when my vice of a paper is finished.

[tdogg]

Non partisan here. Rarely vote for a republican, most of my choices happen to be democrats with some independents in the mix. I must say, this has been about the most corrupt (both on accusations and convictions) US administration in my lifetime, as far as numbers

I wouldn't say the democratic party is without hypocrisy, but IMO they aren't close to the republicans.

[scott snedeker]

I'm so far radical left of the democrats by and large that I can't stand most of 'em except a few.

Republican leadership, however is sleeping with "christian" theocrats bent on a world-wide Jihad, seeking to "cleanse" the world of opposition to their sanctimonious crusade of thought control and of genocide.

They are in frighteningly perfect vibrational alignment with their "muslim" counterparts in the Middle East. Both sides are trying to "out-brutalize" the other. Then they rule their own with fear and condemnation, slaking their ever-growing predatory thirst to dominate.

Where is there a party that activates unconditonal love and acceptance. A group that sees people not as broken or ill or wrong but wonderfully varied. Where the assumption is that love and expression of inner beauty are the dominant vibration of the inner spirit of all humans.

Then all we have to do is activate this dominant vibration present in everyone we meet. Then people become beautiful expressive beings to us rekindling the wonder we had as children. Why then we would see first the beauty and wonder in our fellow humans. We would show them the true natural state of being and attract them because deep down everyone wants to feel love beauty and wonder in themselves and others.

This is worthy of my time and energy and soul. It 's happening more often.
I have found these truths with the Radical Faeries, Abraham, Soulforce, Paganism, my lovers, Reiki, Chopra and others I can't wait to embrace!

I have come across a sort of "love movement" in the younger generation that makes me smile. Maybe Daniel or one of ya'll know something about it?

[scott snedeker]

http://www.anewlovemovement.com/about_us.html:love:

[Emproph]

The biggest difference I see is that the left at least seems to acknowledge the problems, whereas the right just seems to blame the left for them.

[BrianB]

http://www.anewlovemovement.com/about_us.html:love:

Scotty, here is another web site you might like. http://www.lynnandrews.com Many of the people on this site are into Reiki, Chopra, paganism. Although it is officially a website about women and shamanism they do welcome open-minded men. BTW, my name on the message board there is Rolling Bear.

[Zerbie]

Scotty, here is another web site you might like. http://www.lynnandrews.com Many of the people on this site are into Reiki, Chopra, paganism. Although it is officially a website about women and shamanism they do welcome open-minded men. BTW, my name on the message board there is Rolling Bear.

Oh, I read one of her books! years ago. Actually, I don't really remember it anymore. . . wonder if I still have it?

[BrianB]

Oh, I read one of her books! years ago. Actually, I don't really remember it anymore. . . wonder if I still have it?

I'll bet the book was Medicine Woman. I believe it was Lynn's first book.

To come back to this thread's topic; I used to be extremely republican. When I came out to myself that changed everything. I now vote indepent and switched from a born-again church to Roman Catholic to dabbling in shamanism. I think both parties are interested in only one thing...power. Power to move their respective agendas forward.

[BrentRichards]

I am reminded of the old quip, attributed to the late Senator Sam Hayakawa:

"Republicans are people who, if you were drowning 50 feet from shore, would throw you a 25-foot rope and tell you to swim the other 25 feet because it would be good for your character. Democrats would throw you a 100-foot rope and then walk away looking for other good deeds to do."

[scott snedeker]

http://www.anewlovemovement.com/about_us.html

okay try again without rhe smiley

thanks emproph

[Zerbie]

I'll bet the book was Medicine Woman. I believe it was Lynn's first book.

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Wha' didja bet? I win. It wasn't. It was Star Woman. ;)

:lol:

What I can't remember is the content of the book. . . I read a lot that year and it all got clumped together, there was a lot going on. I remember almost nothing of what I read that year, only the details of the really crazy job I had. And even those memories mostly remain walled off.

[scott snedeker]

Scotty, here is another web site you might like. http://www.lynnandrews.com Many of the people on this site are into Reiki, Chopra, paganism. Although it is officially a website about women and shamanism they do welcome open-minded men. BTW, my name on the message board there is Rolling Bear.


Thanks for the link! Brian!

I'm going through it now!:)

[Progo35]

The thing that bothers me is that neigher liberals or conservatives seem to understand or be truly concerned with the wellfare of disabled individuals. For instance, when the latest Futile Care case was going on in Texas, (doctors wanted to stop treating a seventeen month old child against his mother's will; the child died before litigation determined the outcome of the doctors' bid, which could have been granted under the Futile Care Law), I first contacted child wellfare services, then I was directed to the Texas Board of Health and Human Services, where I filed a complaint against the hospital for seeking to deny this child, Emilio, medical care, which fits the definition of abuse on their website. Then, a news paper article from Houston said that this child's "guardian" said that he had no civil right to medical care.

Okay, so I called the ACLU, with prides itself with preserving the Constitution even to extremes. But, when I filed the complaint, I got no answer, I called the ACLU headquarters in Washington, DC, and was told that getting no response meant that they probably weren't taking the course. I explained the situation and how severe it was, and the operator asked, "well, what do you want us to do about it?" I said, "Well, you normally go to bat for people when their civil rights are violated and I think that you could really be of help here." "Is this your child?" the operator asked. "No, I've been contacting various entities as a concerned citizen who knows about the situation." "Oh, well, if it's not you or your child than we're not taking the complaint-we can only take so many at a time and complaints filed by a third party usually aren't given priority. If it's a matter of life and death, send more letters to everyone."-I think that she meant all the ACLU branches in the US?

But how could she ask, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO ABOUT IT? this is the ULTIMATE violation of autonomy, a situation where a white doctor was telling a hispanic woman that she didn't have the capacity to make objective decisions about her child, a person being denied medical care because of his disability...HELLO??? But, I noticed when looking at their website that disabilities aren't even mentioned as a category of things that they deal with, which explains a lot. These people purport to be the vanguards of Constitutional rights and non discrimination, yet they obviously are more concerned about making sure that NAMBLA and the KKK have freedom of speech than saving disabled people from involuntary euthanasia. I think that our society just sees the catastrophically disabled as not people, pure and simple. Basically, it indicates that the ACLU will defend people of all different colors, races and religions, as long as they are of a certain cognitive/physical caliber.

I have more to go on the right but that's all for now.

[scott snedeker]

You are very perceptive! I think there is a lack of understanding of the dehumanization of disabled people. Similar to the dehumanization of any minority. This is a tough one!

Within myself I can sense inner repulsion when seeing a deformed or semi vegetative person. I suspect that this is instinctual. Perhaps it is one way the species avoids burdens that lessen its chance of survival. I don't think that it is anything I have learned.

If I have this gut reaction with my experience and training I imagine so do others. I Compensate for this reaction because I recognize that it is there and not in tune with my mission as a physician. A lot of things I do, however, are charged with gut feelings that I must overcome. These are things such as manually removing stool from a patient's rectum, Making an incision..........Ok I'll stop there.:lol:

Appearance influences feeling in human beings. Someone who "looks" less than human may cause the observer not have the same feelings as they would to a handsome young person, or someone who reminds them of their mother.

People Often make decisions based on gut reaction. Overcoming this is a challenge. Making disabled folks appear more human in a representation may be one way. Sensitivity training may be another.

Guys! any suggestions?

[Progo35]

Come on-all you activists out there have to have SOME suggestions...