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Rick336
06-14-2007, 01:46 PM
From Yahoo News:


No gay marriage vote for Massachusetts

By STEVE LeBLANC, Associated Press Writer

BOSTON - Massachusetts lawmakers blocked a proposed constitutional amendment Thursday that would have let voters decide whether to ban gay marriage in the only state that allows it.

"In Massachusetts today, the freedom to marry is secure," said a victorious Gov. Deval Patrick, who had lobbied lawmakers up until the final hours Thursday to kill the measure.

The narrow vote was a blow to efforts to reverse the historic court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in the state. More than 8,500 gay couples have married there since it became legal in May 2004.

As the tally was announced, the halls of the Statehouse erupted in applause. The ban needed 50 votes to secure a place on the 2008 statewide ballot. It got 45, with 151 lawmakers opposed.

"We're proud of our state today, and we applaud the Legislature for showing that Massachusetts is strongly behind fairness," said Lee Swislow, executive director of Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders.

Opponents of gay marriage vowed to press on, but Thursday's defeat after more than three years of sometimes wrenching debate could prove insurmountable. Any effort to mount a new ballot question would take years at a time political support in Massachusetts is swinging firmly behind gay marriage.

Former Gov. Mitt Romney, now running for president, called the vote "a regrettable setback" and said it makes it more important now to pass a national amendment banning gay marriage.

"Marriage is an institution that goes to the heart of our society, and our leaders can no longer abdicate their responsibility," he said.

Raymond Flynn, the former Boston mayor and former U.S. ambassador to the
Vatican who was the lead sponsor of the proposed amendment, said the 170,000 Massachusetts residents who signed the petition for the ban "had their vote stolen from them."

The legal fight over gay marriage began in 2001 when seven same-sex couples who had been denied marriage licenses sued in Suffolk Superior Court.

The case reached the state's highest court, which ruled in 2003 that it was unconstitutional to bar gay couples from marriage. It gave the Legislature 180 days to come up with a solution to allow gays to wed.
President Bush criticized the decision, but the court was adamant that only full, equal marriage rights would be constitutional.

Outside the Statehouse on Thursday, hundreds of people rallied on both sides of the issue. "We believe it's unconstitutional not to allow people to vote on this," said Rebekah Beliveau, a 24-year-old Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary student who stood with fellow college-age amendment supporters across the street from the Statehouse.

"We're standing up not necessarily on the issue of same-sex marriage, but our right to vote," she said. Advocates said they had gathered 170,000 signatures supporting the amendment; the secretary of state's office accepted 123,000 as valid.

Across the road, gay marriage advocates stood on the front steps of the capital waving signs that read, "Wrong to Vote on Rights" and "All Families Are Equal."

Jean Chandler, 62, of Cambridge, came with fellow members of her Baptist church in an effort to rebuff the image that strict followers of the Bible are opposed to gay marriage.

"I think being gay is like being left-handed," Chandler said. "If we decided left-handed people couldn't marry, what kind of society would we be?"

The measure needed 50 votes in two consecutive legislative sessions to advance to the ballot, and it had passed with 62 votes at the end of the last session in January.

On Thursday, in contrast to previous joint sessions, there was no debate. Senate President Therese Murray opened the constitutional convention by calling for a vote, and the session was gaveled to a close immediately afterward.

It was a victory for the state's Democratic leadership, including Patrick, a vocal supporter of gay marriage.

House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi, a Democrat from Boston, also worked on lawmakers to get them to oppose the measure, arguing that the rights of a minority group should not be put to a popular vote. Before the session, a handful of lawmakers who had voted in favor of the amendment previously said they were reconsidering their vote.

One lawmakers who previously voted in favor of the amendment, Democratic Rep. Anthony Verga of Gloucester, missed the joint session after injuring himself in a fall the day before.

Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute that backed the amendment, said his group was vastly outspent by gay marriage supporters. "It certainly does appear that money speaks in this building," he said.

Mineau pledged to continue fighting but wouldn't commit to presenting another proposed amendment.

"I don't believe it's dead because the people have not had the opportunity to have their vote," he said. "This will not go away until the citizens have their opportunity to decide what the definition of marriage is."

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Associated Press writers Glen Johnson and Ken Maguire contributed to this report.

Zerbie
06-14-2007, 02:23 PM
Pleasant news, thanks for posting Rick!

BrentRichards
06-14-2007, 03:10 PM
As always, I'm disturbed that the idea remains that the rights of the few should be subject to the popular vote of the unaffected. Sigh.

Emproph
06-15-2007, 10:01 AM
A Talk To Action article (http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/6/14/224955/741).

I love this line:
Since the 2003 court decision legalizing same sex marriage, the simple fact was that no one could point to anything bad happening.

Then of course there's "God's" version (http://www.citizenlink.org:80/CLtopstories/A000004852.cfm) of the story.

Focus on the Family's CitizenLink-Jennifer Mesko:
http://www.citizenlink.org/images/07/06-14-07.jpg

A dozen legislators bow to pressure, vote against sending a constitutional amendment to the people.

Allegations of bribery by the governor and arm-twisting by the House speaker as a means of pressuring legislators to switch their vote have been reported widely in the press in recent weeks.

"Bribery" and "arm-twisting" in order to convince others of the existence of NOTHING. Good one Jenny :tup:. --(:rolleyes:x20)

tdogg
06-15-2007, 10:28 AM
This is GREAT news! Thanks for posting Rick. :D

Daniel
06-15-2007, 10:38 AM
There are two threads regarding this news at the moment. Would there be any advantage to combining them on one thread?

Moderators?

antonyh
06-15-2007, 02:21 PM
There are two threads regarding this news at the moment. Would there be any advantage to combining them on one thread?

Moderators?

It is like being on roller blades and your legs go in two different directions :lol:

Progo35
06-15-2007, 08:29 PM
As a conservative Christian, "conservative" being what you make of it, I really don't see the point of pro-family or Christian groups lobbying against gay marriage. I think that Christian institutions, such as the adoption agency issue I mentioned, have a right to set their own policies, but this is something that has no bearing on what individual churches will do or not do. Moreover, I would think that giving gay couples the right to marry legally would help such individuals avoid the pitfalls that come with having to be married without being "technically" married. In short, what I'm saying is that no matter what one thinks, people have to be able to make their own decisions.

ladyinred
06-28-2007, 10:40 AM
And lookie lookie, the only state that allows for gay marriages hasn't shown that gay marriage has any adverse affect on straight marriages, gay aren't taking over the state .One thing it proves is that Dobsons' and other right organization's paranoia is unwarranted.

Daniel
09-20-2007, 12:03 AM
For this bit of news. Warmed my heart.

http://www.towleroad.com/2007/09/hampshire-colle.html


Hampshire College President Reveals He Married His Partner

Hampshire College, a small liberal arts college in Amherst, Massachusetts, has a gay president, Ralph Hexter. On Tuesday, Hexter announced to a roomful of faculty and staff members that he and his partner of 27 years, Manfred Kollmeier, had just done something "[they] could only do in Massachusetts."

BrentRichards
09-20-2007, 01:06 PM
For this bit of news. Warmed my heart.

http://www.towleroad.com/2007/09/hampshire-colle.html

I'm guessing Hampshire College won't be a stop on the 08 Equality Ride?

Very nice, thanks for posting it.

u-dog
09-20-2007, 01:24 PM
I'm guessing Hampshire College won't be a stop on the 08 Equality Ride?



Not so much... no.