Lesbian Gangs

[antonyh]

I came across this YouTube about an alleged epidemic of violent Lesbian gangs in the United States. It is a segment from the O'Reilly hour. Does anyone know anything about this?

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[antonyh]

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center:


The Authorities Disagree

Nine-millimeter Glocks painted pink? Dykes taking over? More than 150 lesbian gangs in the Washington, D.C., area alone? These claims are, as Wheeler suggested, "very, very interesting." They're also very, very flimsy. Gaithersburg, Md., Detective Patrick Word, president of the Mid-Atlantic Regional Gang Investigators Network, an intelligence-sharing organization of 400 criminal justice professionals in Maryland, Washington, D.C., and Virginia, said there is no evidence whatsoever of a lesbian gang epidemic in his region. "Our membership reports only one lesbian gang," Word told the Intelligence Report.

Sgt. Brett Parson, a member and former commander of the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department's Gay and Lesbian Liaison Unit, also questioned Wheeler's numbers. "We have 150 to 175 total gangs in the D.C. area, and out of those only nine where the predominance of members are female," he said. "You simply can't make the jump that they are lesbians. I think it is fair to talk about violence and female gangs. But to sensationalize or marginalize a community by making a statement like that seems irresponsible."

Confronted by the Intelligence Report, Wheeler was unable, in several phone and E-mail exchanges over a two-day period, to specify a single law enforcement agency or officer, police report, media account or any other source he relied upon for his D.C. area lesbian gangs claim. But he insisted that his report was accurate and that any law enforcement officer who disagrees is "out of touch." "For some reason or other, these organizations don't lay it on the line because they don't know what is going on on the streets," said Wheeler. "This is a serious crisis and the so-called experts are missing it."

According to Wheeler's personal website, he is a member of Jericho City of Praise, a conservative Christian megachurch in Landover, Md., whose leadership publicly advocates against equal rights for gays and lesbians. The website details Wheeler's 500-plus appearances on MSNBC, Court TV and Fox News Channel shows including "The O'Reilly Factor," "On the Record With Greta Van Sustern," and "Hannity & Colmes."

Fox News officials and Bill O'Reilly did not return E-mails seeking comment for this story. O'Reilly is quoted on Wheeler's website heralding Wheeler as "America's most recognized and trusted authority on crime analysis and law enforcement."


http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?site_area=1&aid=274

[BruceChris]

Or does O'Reilly do this sort of thing ALL of the time? :eek: :eek: :eek:

(Have I told you the one about the Amish Mafia yet?) :confused:

P&L, BC

[u-dog]

Or does O'Reilly do this sort of thing ALL of the time? :eek: :eek: :eek:

(Have I told you the one about the Amish Mafia yet?) :confused:

P&L, BC


No, you didnt. Will you tell it now? We are NOT going to beg.

[BrianB]

According to Wheeler's personal website, he is a member of Jericho City of Praise, a conservative Christian megachurch in Landover, Md., whose leadership publicly advocates against equal rights for gays and lesbians. The website details Wheeler's 500-plus appearances on MSNBC, Court TV and Fox News Channel shows including "The O'Reilly Factor," "On the Record With Greta Van Sustern," and "Hannity & Colmes."
Mr. Wheeler ought to be careful about what he wears. His church may frown upon his pink tie and pocket square. It almost looked to me like he was wearing eye shadow. Did anyone else see that? Maybe I'm just seeing things.
I wonder if Wheeler's church is like Landover Baptist. (http://landoverbaptist.org)

[pnggrad79]

OMG! So O'Reilly is lumping all lesbians into this gang category? Wow! But you know it is about time somebody starting kicking some ass around here. But indoctrinating them into homosexuality? If they ain't gay naturally, there ain't no way you can make them that way, and the converse is true! They may be raping them or forcing them, but it doesn't make them gay. I wonder how much Dobson is paying O'Reilly?:rolleyes:

[sjbouza]

Oh my effin!!! Do people really believe this shit??? I mean really???

Schools are starting to take a look at the problem because it is more previlant then they thought. Get real. This is just a joke right??? Come on whos pulling my leg??? You can come out now...you got me...hahahahaha...laugh it up!

I am without words. Dyke gangs...go figure. Well there are those pesky vampire peacocks out there...so why not a lesbian gang.

[tdogg]

The 'pink pistol-packin' group' - OMG! :lol::lol::lol: That is FUN-E!

Rod Wheeler/Bill O'Reilly - this is how the lies and deceit start. Questions that came up for me: how does Rod Wheeler know they are 'lesbians'? The fight in the video looked pretty much like a school yard rucus. Pushing, pulling hair, a few socks. Lesbian gangs??? I would like if they were lesbian gangs they would look a little tougher, fight a little tougher. Pushing & pulling hair, not too tough. Why would Mr. Wheeler act SO excited about this? He's really animated. He must be enjoying himself explaining all about the lesbian gangs. Bill O'Reilly, was he born yesterday? He acts so innocent and yet shows himself buying totally into Wheeler's story.

Oh wait, that's right...it's FOX news! That explains a lot. But...it doesn't quite explain Rod's pink shirt, coordinating tie, and matching lipstick & eyeshadow...is he trying to join one of those gangs he's reporting on????!!

:lol::lol::D:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[u-dog]

OK, so here is the funniest part of all:


Wheeler told the Report that he spent seven years in professional law enforcement before going to work as a corporate security officer for McDonald's Corp., a job he has since left. These days, Wheeler is a "food defense specialist" for the American Institute of Baking. Just this spring, he publicly warned that the Big Mac is vulnerable to bioterrorist attacks at "250 points" during production.

Viewers left wondering what, exactly, Wheeler was smoking before he went on "The O'Reilly Factor" might find a 1994 Washington Times article intriguing. The paper reported that Wheeler was suspended from the Metro D.C. police force after testing positive for marijuana in a random drug test. Wheeler told the Report that samples were mixed up and that he was eventually "exonerated."


Wow! who even knew the American Institute of Baking HAD a "food defense specialist" !! :eek:

[antonyh]

This is all pretty funny except for one thing...some people in the blog world believe it...like this dear writer:

http://www.twoorthree.net/2007/06/lesbian-gangs.html

Google lesbian gangs for more reading pleasure :lol:

[SEGrether]

Cute. I can't wait to set people straight on that accusation.

So, if these groups actually carry pink pistols... does it mean they are affiliated with the actual group? Just wondering... b/c I had considered joining or at least giving them some money... being a full supporter of the 2nd amendment... but, hmm.

They did a nice job of making sound like we want to "convert" children too. Luckily the people who believe this are the ones who will never come around anyway. Hopefully.

Arg. That's just ridiculous. Although, I was laughing through all of it.

[tpdncr4christ]

I don't really find it funny at all. The fact that we are accused with gang violence should be enough to make any one want reform of their own community. Rather than laughing it off shouldn't we be "activists" of the peaceful life? Shouldn't we be preaching against this violence? Show others that we don't associate or wish to be a part of that particular extent of political movement?

I don't understand how anything is supposed to get done at all if we continue to allow the Christians to define us as extremists, as activists, how is anything supposed to happen? Why aren't we, why isn't Soulforce, making a point to stand against this violence, be it lesbian or not, why aren't we distancing ourselves from it?

I don't see how any of you find this funny... please someone, explain the humor to me.

[u-dog]

I don't really find it funny at all. The fact that we are accused with gang violence should be enough to make any one want reform of their own community. Rather than laughing it off shouldn't we be "activists" of the peaceful life? Shouldn't we be preaching against this violence? Show others that we don't associate or wish to be a part of that particular extent of political movement?

I don't understand how anything is supposed to get done at all if we continue to allow the Christians to define us as extremists, as activists, how is anything supposed to happen? Why aren't we, why isn't Soulforce, making a point to stand against this violence, be it lesbian or not, why aren't we distancing ourselves from it?

I don't see how any of you find this funny... please someone, explain the humor to me.


Austin,

Read the excerpt from the Southern Poverty Law Center report and follow the link to read the whole thing. We are not outraged at the existence of "Killer Dyke Gangs" because THEY DO NOT EXIST!! Everything about that O'Brian report and everything about that pseudo-expert Wheeler IS A LIE. We can't get serious about reforming a problem in our community because this problem IS A LIE made up by Fox "news" to villify us in the eyes of their gullible conservative audience. Wheeler is the director of Sandwich security for the American Institute of Baking for Crying out loud!!! And fox news is treating him like he was chief of the f____ing police in DC or something.

We laugh because:

a. It is SO INCREDIBLY RIDICULOUS and
b. Laughing is better than crying.

Everything that the Religious right does to our community is based on LIES and the eagerness of a certain demographic to BELIEVE THE LIES no matter how stupid they are.

[tpdncr4christ]

ok... so the O'Reily Factor show is kinda like The Daily News with John Stewart? I don't really know what it is... but even if lies are being spread about us shouldn't we be stopping them? Or, are we?

[u-dog]

ok... so the O'Reily Factor show is kinda like The Daily News with John Stewart? I don't really know what it is... but even if lies are being spread about us shouldn't we be stopping them? Or, are we?

NO, unfortunately it is dead serious. O'Reily is a hyper-conservative, shock-jock type interviewer. He plays fast and loose with the truth because he knows that as long as he doesn't libel anyone, no one is going to stop him. People DO challenge his crap. he either ignores it or retracts it and then moves on to his next lie. Its an ugly business, but its what the neo cons and the religious right do best.

[tpdncr4christ]

At least Stewart is honest about telling lies.

[tdogg]

Anyone up for a u-tube rebuttal? Send it off to Mr. Chief of food security and Mr. Lying' to the public O'Reilly?

Sort of like the one George Takei did in response to the basketball player's inane homophobic remarks... Show them how stupid this whole thing really sounds????

[nmwolfboy]

ok... so the O'Reily Factor show is kinda like The Daily News with John Stewart?

Sort of. The biggest difference is that Jon Stewart never denies that he's spoofing the news media and always denies being an actual journalist. O'Reilly's self-aggrandizing claim is that he's a "No-spin journalist" when he's really just a hack, a shill and a liar.

When Al Franken still had his radio show, one of my favorite segments was when Al would play recordings of completely contradicting excerpts from O'Reilly's radio & television shows. One day ol' Bill would say "I have always held (x) position" and a few days later would just as forcefully be saying "I have never said I held (x) position". What was hilarious was just how often in a two week period Bill-O would do this.

I believe the best descriptor of Bill-O (other than liar) is "blowhard".

-scott

[BrentRichards]

Wheeler told the Report that he spent seven years in professional law enforcement before going to work as a corporate security officer for McDonald's Corp., a job he has since left. These days, Wheeler is a "food defense specialist" for the American Institute of Baking. Just this spring, he publicly warned that the Big Mac is vulnerable to bioterrorist attacks at "250 points" during production.

Viewers left wondering what, exactly, Wheeler was smoking before he went on "The O'Reilly Factor" might find a 1994 Washington Times article intriguing. The paper reported that Wheeler was suspended from the Metro D.C. police force after testing positive for marijuana in a random drug test. Wheeler told the Report that samples were mixed up and that he was eventually "exonerated."

There is of course an obvious explanation here, he was just testing the security of this particular batch of brownies, and ...

[BrentRichards]

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

[u-dog]

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

Yeah, and when you consider that according to them only about 1% of the population is GLBT ... it must mean that ALL OF US (men and women alike) belong to 8 or ten Lesbian gangs huh?

[BrentRichards]

Yeah, and when you consider that according to them only about 1% of the population is GLBT ... it must mean that ALL OF US (men and women alike) belong to 8 or ten Lesbian gangs huh?

As if. I only belong to 2.

[Steven E. Webster]

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

O'Reilly and the Fox "Crime Expert" were being incredibly sly. It has been reported by a reliable authority that their are 150 total gangs of all types in the D.C. area. Going back and listening carefully to O'Reilly's report you find that no one ever actually says "150 lesbian gangs." They discuss "lesbian gangs" in one sentence, refer to 150 gangs in the D.C. area in another sentence, and then return to discussing "lesbian gangs."

Same thing with the way they string together several isolated incidents and then make a statement about there being "a nation-wide network" implying that this is a criminal conspiracy of national scope--something they never really spell out--they implied it, but they can deny they said it if ever pinned down.

I suspect that, if pinned down, they would deny ever asserting that there are 150 "lesbian gangs" in the D.C. area. I know a right-wing hate-monger who justifies this kind of thing as "spin" and says everyone does it. Somehow you can get away with lying when you call it "spin."

Seems like folks like O'Reilly wouldn't know the truth if it bit them______you know where.

I don't like to frame our struggle as a "culture war"--that's a term that comes from the right wing. "War" implies that the Christian Right is defending itself against an aggressive "enemy." "Lying" and all sorts of "collateral damage" is justifiable when one is defending oneself in a "war" agains an "enemy."

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

[antonyh]

I don't like to frame our struggle as a "culture war"--that's a term that comes from the right wing. "War" implies that the Christian Right is defending itself against an aggressive "enemy." "Lying" and all sorts of "collateral damage" is justifiable when one is defending oneself in a "war" agains an "enemy."

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

I like to think that we are seeking justice, the restoration of that which is rightfully ours. In seeking justice we need to do it with wisdom, courage and self control.

I agree with you that the term "culture war" diminishes what we are about.

[Zerbie]

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

THANK YOU!!!!

That is SO well said!

That needs to go on bumper stickers, tee shirts, back packs. . . .

[antonyh]

If you're done laughing about the Lesbian Gangs, here is another funny one:

Hetero woman: Feminism turned me into lesbian
'I'd had a very happy marriage and a very good relationship with men'

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56458

I say we spread feminism far and wide!

[antonyh]

Sorry I could not resist...Here is Americans for "Truth" gloating about Michael Glatze.

http://americansfortruth.com/news/michael-glatze-comes-out-of-homosexual-activism-former-young-gay-america-magazine-co-founder.html

And the Queerty response:

http://www.queerty.com/news/peter-labarbera-would-totally-suck-michael-glatzes-dick-20070705/

[Gregory_de_Bois]

I read an article on WND about a school's attempt to "convert their freshman gay." I almost started laughing, 'cause it was really about a sex-ed class that was just saying that some are homosexual and it's okay, no conversion there. What made me laugh even more is that the spokesperson for Concerned Women for America was a man. I thought it was Concerned Women for America?!?! Am I missing something? I bet that man is really a woman. Otherwise how could he be in the Concerned Women for America? huh HUH???

[Steven E. Webster]

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the-pious-publishers-are-already-in-heaven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

[Gregory_de_Bois]

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the-pious-publishers-are-already-in-heaven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

I wonder what those conservatives have to say about that? MAHA!

[antonyh]

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the-pious-publishers-are-already-in-heaven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

Yeah, he's mormon. Here is a link:

http://www.churchexecutive.com/Page.cfm/PageID/9643

Here is the original link:
http://www.wthrockmorton.com/

[antonyh]

Looks like GLADD is tackling O'Reilly:

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=21612

[wmanion]

Unfortunately, my borther is a FOX news addict. Last night there was a retraction of this story on O'Rielly. There is a Lesbian group called the pink pistols but they are advocates of gun rights...not a gang of any sorts. Of course, good ol' Bill was not there for the retraction, the girl that fills in for him when he is gone was and the retractions was only a couple of sentences and I heard no apology for the false story.

[antonyh]

Unfortunately, my borther is a FOX news addict. Last night there was a retraction of this story on O'Rielly. There is a Lesbian group called the pink pistols but they are advocates of gun rights...not a gang of any sorts. Of course, good ol' Bill was not there for the retraction, the girl that fills in for him when he is gone was and the retractions was only a couple of sentences and I heard no apology for the false story.

Well at least he is feeling some heat.

[tymejumper]

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

Just imagine all the broken nails these lesbians will have after their cat fights. That would be enough for all us femmes to quit the gang right then and there! LOL LOL LOL

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[u-dog]

Well at least he is feeling some heat.


No he isn't! he knows full well that he can tell a big whopper like this and that it will travel far and wide among his "fans" and support the right-wing lie machine and that when he whispers his pathetic little apology that no one will hear or notice it.

[tymejumper]

No he isn't! he knows full well that he can tell a big whopper like this and that it will travel far and wide among his "fans" and support the right-wing lie machine and that when he whispers his pathetic little apology that no one will hear or notice it.

Oreily is just an idiot.

[Progo35]

I just wanted to let everyone know that the O'Reilly factor is, as I write, talking to GLAD about the misinformation presented on the show. GLAD did say thankyou for inviting him on to correct/discuss the issue, the spokesman saying that he hopes other news stations will follow his example. So, at least that was a relatively positive dialogue. According to O'Reilly, the detective/interviewee who said lesbian gangs were a national epidemic posted an apology on his website.

To be frank, I really like Bill O'Reilly's show because it is one of the few news shows that I feel doesn't embrace the ideology of the extreme left. And, during the Terri Schiavo fiasco, his show was one of the only newscasts to explore cases in which PVS had been misdiagnosed. Now, obviously, O'Reilly tends toward the conservative end of things and this example in itself shows that he, too, mistakenly makes false reports. Although, Bill O'Reilly did say that some lesbian gangs exist but not widely, although, as GLAD said, he really needs to clarify that, which GLAD invited him to do.

One thing that I think Bill needs to stop doing is interrupting people when they're talking. It makes him look intolerant and brash, esp. during this last broadcast in dealing with an extremely sensitive issue concerning his own broadcast.

[CaseyAnne]

Don't you know lesbian gangs are everywhere? Supposedly I'm in one, i was wearing their colors (a rainbow cape) and was threatened with suspension for it... if there really is a lesbian gang, please let me know, I'd love the hook up>:D

[BruceChris]

30 years ago, I used to wrench for a bunch of women, some gay, some str8 who rode Harleys. They called themselves the Alliance of Women Bikers. But they've been gone so long, even Google has no record of them.

Keep the rubber side down, Bruce Chris

[CaseyAnne]

30 years ago, I used to wrench for a bunch of women, some gay, some str8 who rode Harleys. They called themselves the Alliance of Women Bikers. But they've been gone so long, even Google has no record of them.

Keep the rubber side down, Bruce Chris

supposedly in the next town over we had a group called "the lesbian avengers" >>

[bnmoore]

We have "Lesbian Avengers" and "Digging Dykes" here. Neither are gangs although the latter's lawns are bad-ass. The tour of homes and gardens is stunning. There is also a motorcycle club that usually rides in the Pride parade.

[BruceChris]

And the name "Dykes on Bikes" has become so popular, and so generic that a women's club in California has copyrighted it.

Lesbian Avengers are usually pretty nice, once you get to know them, and I try to make it a point to do just that.

Happy New Year, Bruce Chris

[BruceChris]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/12/29/lesbian-vampire-killers-biggest-movie-flop-of-2009/

[Alecto]

"Lesbian Avengers Eat Fire, Too" is an incredibly awesome documentary with a fabulous title that is well worth the watch - If you can find it. Our school library or some department had it, and we'd always giggle when we talked about it cause the title is so ridiculous, and it sounds like a sequel. That said, I have a LOT of respect for these women, and would work with them in a heartbeat should the opportunity ever arise.