You dirty little man.......

[keltic63]

I couldn't save the ceiling, so it's coming down, and with it, so is all the coal dust that's been laying there for years and years and years.....


http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/keltic63/dirtyman.jpg

[Zerbie]

Bwah!! :rofl:

[antonyh]

Tee hee...surprise surprise. Hope you get all cleaned off before your hubbie comes home. :D

[tdogg]

What a mess! You are just a workin' fool Steve! Awesome :D:weee: Can't wait to see the 'after' pics.

[keltic63]

eventhough I had sheets hanging over the doorways, the black dirt is all through the house. I stopped to clean up the room, remove the old wood etc. then I took a bath, soaked and scrubbed with a brush, then I showered! I sneezed. it was black dirt. my 9yo son checked on me while I was working and he said "you look like a coal miner." he was right. I did.

I was in the tub when hubby came home from work. he had all kinds of comments, most of which shouldn't have come out of his mouth considering that he's not the one doing the work :mad:

I have a few more ceiling boards to remove tomorrow morning, then I'm tackling the floor. anyone care to join me?

[pnggrad79]

I hear ya, Keltic! I have been tackling the work on my house so we can put it up for sale here soon, and since getting my two teenagers to help me, between their jobs and bf's, is like getting an act of Congress. Wife comes home and helps, but I feel so overwhelmed sometimes. This is not a big house, but it seems like it is with all the work I have to do.

So far, I have (with a little help here and there) repainted both girls' rooms, and gotten them new beds. I cleaned their carpet and repainted the baseboards and window sills. Then wife and I repainted the bathroom last night and once we move some more furniture, I can paint our bedroom. It is slowly coming together, but I am getting cabin fever. Haven't been out of my house except to go to church in 3 weeks.

I was hoping you were going to say that hubby when he got home wanted to join you in the tub and reward you for your hard work. Hey you may have looked like a coal miner, but you are getting stuff done and at least you are being productive.

[BrentRichards]

Ah, memories of my youth, sort of ... my family were coal miners for generations, in NE PA and prior to that in the ancestral homeland. Fortunately, my grandfather broke that trend and became a machinist, so we came back above ground. Though I do still occasionally hide under rocks, just to keep in practice.

[keltic63]

woot!


the ceiling is down and most of the dirt is cleaned up. Now to tackle the tacky vinyl floor tiles. I'll remove them, examine the subflooring, and decide whether to replace the subfloor or simply finish it to the studs. right now the sub floor does not reach to the original studs. the original subfloor beneath it may not be in good enough shape to lay the laminate flooring I bought.

[SabreCat89]

The thread title totally threw me. Oh, the hilarity. :D

[sailaway58]

Progress report?

[keltic63]

Progress report?

I rewired the room, and added 2 additional receptacles. I didn't like the way the overhead light was wired from the receptacle, to the light, then to the switch, so I brought a new wire up from the box in the basement, powered a new receptacle and continued to the new dimmer switch then on to the light.

I removed the vinyl tile flooring with a heat gun.

my partner installed the insulation on the outside wall, which had none at all.

Next comes the drywall. I haven't even purchased it yet, so maybe by Friday I'll get that started.

[dsdrane]

Oh Steve! You schmutzy thing, you! I so wish I could zip up there and help. I love stuff like this!!:cool:

I can be quite butch when necessary, y'know.

[keltic63]

Oh Steve! You schmutzy thing, you! I so wish I could zip up there and help. I love stuff like this!!:cool:

I can be quite butch when necessary, y'know.

I accept! Pick up some drywall on the way here. I have an extra bedroom; you can spend a few nights, help us get the room finished, and I'll give you the real tour of Fallingwater (I was a guide there for 11 years)

[pnggrad79]

We are almost done with our house to put it on the market. I made the mistake of inviting two of my gay friends to "stage" the house. They spent the day flaming all over the place. "Oh honey, don't use this color", "This would look fabulous over there" and "These curtains would look yummy in this room". All I did was sit and watch them decorate, and spent over $500. I had to put out the flame before I ran out of money!

[dsdrane]

I accept! Pick up some drywall on the way here. I have an extra bedroom; you can spend a few nights, help us get the room finished, and I'll give you the real tour of Fallingwater (I was a guide there for 11 years)


Holy moly...that would be sooooo cool! I soooo cannot wait to finally tour that building and site. I sometimes bemoan the über-saturation of Wright in our society, but, damn, the guy was flippin' brilliant and did have three distinct careers, really, as an architect, so I suppose we must give the devil his due.

By the way...the first non-Soulforce pictures I ever saw of Dash (ummm...you know...when I was cyber-stalking him 'n' stuff:rolleyes:) were of him at Fallingwater.

My first thoughts were handsome guy! followed quickly by nice legs! :D

[Zerbie]

I rewired the room, and added 2 additional receptacles. I didn't like the way the overhead light was wired from the receptacle, to the light, then to the switch, so I brought a new wire up from the box in the basement, powered a new receptacle and continued to the new dimmer switch then on to the light.

I removed the vinyl tile flooring with a heat gun.

my partner installed the insulation on the outside wall, which had none at all.

Next comes the drywall. I haven't even purchased it yet, so maybe by Friday I'll get that started.

Oh Steve! You schmutzy thing, you! I so wish I could zip up there and help. I love stuff like this!!:cool:

I can be quite butch when necessary, y'know.

You guys are really giving the lie to 'Queer Duck: The Movie', ya know.

Have ya seen it? There's a scene where the evil ex-gay psychiatrist kidnaps Queer Duck and holds him captive "in a place no gay man has ever been."

Then they zoom in on Home Depot.

[keltic63]

You guys are really giving the lie to 'Queer Duck: The Movie', ya know.

Have ya seen it? There's a scene where the evil ex-gay psychiatrist kidnaps Queer Duck and holds him captive "in a place no gay man has ever been."

Then they zoom in on Home Depot.

Oh puh-leeeaassse! You do mean "Homo Depot" , don't you? :lol:
It's a well-known cruising spot for picking up "straight" men for....well, no need to get graphic here. :o

[dsdrane]

J'adore le Homo Depot!!

Just the other day, I walked in the main entrance only to encounter a gaggle of gays standing there chatting. All four of us did the full-on eye contact thing, duly acknowledging each other's presence, and then went about our business.

Fun!

[keltic63]

J'adore le Homo Depot!!

Just the other day, I walked in the main entrance only to encounter a gaggle of gays standing there chatting. All four of us did the full-on eye contact thing, duly acknowledging each other's presence, and then went about our business.

Fun!

so many straight people just don't get how that gaydar thing works! we've been out with some straight women friends, and we'll comment on the number of gay guys in the room or building, and they will just be amazed that we "know" when they have no idea whether the guy is gay or not. Even if they're "straight" and with a woman, sometimes that eye contact thing just gives them away!

[Dash]

Gosh...even in Oklahoma, Home Depot is a gay mecca! :D It's sooo true!

And David darling, Fallingwater is a perfect little weekend drive from Chicago. :agree::love:

[sailaway58]

Gosh...even in Oklahoma, Home Depot is a gay mecca! :D It's sooo true!

And David darling, Fallingwater is a perfect little weekend drive from Chicago. :agree::love:

I'm sticking to Menards!:lol:

[Zerbie]

Gosh...even in Oklahoma, Home Depot is a gay mecca! :D It's sooo true!

And David darling, Fallingwater is a perfect little weekend drive from Chicago. :agree::love:

Oh puh-leeeaassse! You do mean "Homo Depot" , don't you? :lol:
It's a well-known cruising spot for picking up "straight" men for....well, no need to get graphic here. :o

J'adore le Homo Depot!!

Just the other day, I walked in the main entrance only to encounter a gaggle of gays standing there chatting. All four of us did the full-on eye contact thing, duly acknowledging each other's presence, and then went about our business.

Fun!

so many straight people just don't get how that gaydar thing works! we've been out with some straight women friends, and we'll comment on the number of gay guys in the room or building, and they will just be amazed that we "know" when they have no idea whether the guy is gay or not. Even if they're "straight" and with a woman, sometimes that eye contact thing just gives them away!

Okay guys, I did not write the script for Queer Duck, okay??

I just thought it was funny.

I do get what you mean about the gaydar, though. Frequently when we're out in public I'll make some comment to DH about all the gays and lesbians on the premises and he's like, "What?! How on earth can you know??" And the thing is, I just do. I figured out a long time ago not to smile at the guys - their eyes just glaze over, like ":rolleyes:why is this straight chick smiling at me?" :lol: :lol:

Being married and passing as essentially straight for so long, I get a jolt on those rare occasions out on the street or wherever, when I pass a lesbian and she reads me as "belonging", and I'm like, "Cool!" :cool:

[BrentRichards]

J'adore le Homo Depot!!


I agree that I've rarely been in a Home Depot without seeing someone that "pinged" on gaydar, but it must be said that no straight man has ever said the above about that store, am I right?

[sailaway58]

Home Depot to offer DP benefits
Gay partners join pets in health coverage (http://www.sovo.com/2004/9-3/news/localnews/homedeopt.cfm)

[sailaway58]

I agree that I've rarely been in a Home Depot without seeing someone that "pinged" on gaydar, but it must be said that no straight man has ever said the above about that store, am I right?

:confused:This is great, now every time I see a guy with a nice haircut in the Home Depot I'll wonder, and god forbid we make eye contact:cool:

[Daniel]

:confused:This is great, now every time I see a guy with a nice haircut in the Home Depot I'll wonder, and god forbid we make eye contact:cool:

Don't worry. Just don't hold eye contact for more than 2 seconds. 4 to 6 seconds- and a second look - and a smile- gets you a date. ;)

And you can't trust the nice haircut thing. :rolleyes:

Or pink shirts. :lol:

Or gold chains. :eek::lol:

It's all in the eyes baby! Windows to the soul.

[dsdrane]

It's all in the eyes baby! Windows to the soul.

That is sooooooooo totally true!

Or, as Martin Sherman wrote in his play Bent, gay men have "fluff eyes".

It rang out as gospel to me the moment I read it over 20 years ago.

Och...I'm so old.

[Pablo Rafael]

I know I'm pathetic, and I hate to admit it, but I don't get this "gaydar" thing in the least.
I am always totally clueless when it comes to gay and straight. :confused:

Maybe I haven't been hanging around Home Depot enough. Next time I'm there, I'll loiter around at the door checking out the guys. However, "Our" Home Depot is 125 miles away so I don't get there very often. Is there some other gay hangout? WalMart maybe? (only 75 miles away.)

Tu Amigo, Pablo

[keltic63]

I know I'm pathetic, and I hate to admit it, but I don't get this "gaydar" thing in the least.
I am always totally clueless when it comes to gay and straight. :confused:

Maybe I haven't been hanging around Home Depot enough. Next time I'm there, I'll loiter around at the door checking out the guys. However, "Our" Home Depot is 125 miles away so I don't get there very often. Is there some other gay hangout? WalMart maybe? (only 75 miles away.)

Tu Amigo, Pablo

I've seen plenty of gay guys at WalMart!!!! very often, Scott and I will be walking around the store and one of us will say "what is this? Gay night at WalMart?" :lol:


I've also heard that gay guys like to hang out at gay bars. you might look there ;)

[nmwolfboy]

Don't worry. Just don't hold eye contact for more than 2 seconds. 4 to 6 seconds- and a second look - and a smile- gets you a date. ;)

And you can't trust the nice haircut thing. :rolleyes:

Or pink shirts. :lol:

Or gold chains. :eek::lol:

It's all in the eyes baby! Windows to the soul.

And another gaydar "ping" is noticing who their eyes follow. My ex used to say, "You wanna know what's going on in a crowd? Watch who's watching who."

[keltic63]

And another gaydar "ping" is noticing who their eyes follow. My ex used to say, "You wanna know what's going on in a crowd? Watch who's watching who."

and THAT'S why I wear sunglasses in the winter!



I wear my sunglasses at night, so I can, so I can keep track of the visions in my eyes........ :sing:

[Zerbie]

I know I'm pathetic, and I hate to admit it, but I don't get this "gaydar" thing in the least.
I am always totally clueless when it comes to gay and straight. :confused:

Pablo

Oh you poor baby! Born with a broken gaydar!

Or maybe I got yours? :p While not infallible, it never gives a false ping.

And Come To Think Of It - - DH and I were just AT Home Depot a few nights ago and I totally got a gaydar ping off of two gentlemen who were using the self-checkout across from us. Hmmm. . . I'll have to stop getting so immersed in lamps and appliances and allow myself to observe a little more - - if it really is a universally Homo Depot, I've been clueless for a long time.

(Of course, that might be because I never started GOING there til last year, and I still have avoidance issues of anyplace that sells lumber. :rolleyes:)

[BrentRichards]

Don't worry. Just don't hold eye contact for more than 2 seconds. 4 to 6 seconds- and a second look - and a smile- gets you a date. ;)

And you can't trust the nice haircut thing. :rolleyes:

Or pink shirts. :lol:

Or gold chains. :eek::lol:

It's all in the eyes baby! Windows to the soul.

Yeah, how fair is this ... when I was in HS, dress was a big cue. Who told straight men they could start dressing nice and trendy? It throws everything off.

But I second the eyes thing ... and no need to totally look away ... as Daniel observes, it takes a long look to send the message... no straight man in America will maintain eye-contact with a male stranger for that long.

[sailaway58]

Yeah, how fair is this ... when I was in HS, dress was a big cue. Who told straight men they could start dressing nice and trendy? It throws everything off.

But I second the eyes thing ... and no need to totally look away ... as Daniel observes, it takes a long look to send the message... no straight man in America will maintain eye-contact with a male stranger for that long.

Queer Eye for the Straight Guy has made it tough on everybody!

[Pablo Rafael]

and THAT'S why I wear sunglasses in the winter!


I see someone else thinks like I do. When I see a good looking guy I have to think if I have my sunglasses on (I have a blue mirrored pair). Then I know whether I can stare at him without being seen in return. I imagine straight people do the same thing. (I never trust people with sunglasses.)

Also around here we wear sunglasses in winter because of SNOW and endless sunny days.

Back to the original purpose of this thread:
Steve, with all this remodeling you are doing, I was just curious how old your house was. The older they get, the more difficult the work to update. I like construction-type work; it's fun if one can do it at one's leisure.

Tu Amigo, Pablo

[Zerbie]

I see someone else thinks like I do. When I see a good looking guy I have to think if I have my sunglasses on (I have a blue mirrored pair). Then I know whether I can stare at him without being seen in return. I imagine straight people do the same thing. (I never trust people with sunglasses.)

Tu Amigo, Pablo

Uh oh!! You sure won't trust me then! I don't walk out the door without 'em on - living here, one needs to find dark, dark ones, with a lot of coverage around the eyes - no cute narrow frames. We're *mysterious* out here (because we don't want to go blind.)

Good strategy idea though, using sunnies for ulterior purposes! :lol:

[keltic63]

Also around here we wear sunglasses in winter because of SNOW and endless sunny days. I wear them in winter too.



Back to the original purpose of this thread:
Steve, with all this remodeling you are doing, I was just curious how old your house was. The older they get, the more difficult the work to update. I like construction-type work; it's fun if one can do it at one's leisure.

Tu Amigo, Pablo


I found a 1908 quarter while I was tearing out the old walls. That doesn't mean the house is that old, but I'm willing to bet that it's at least 80 years old.

[Daniel]

I wear them in winter too.

Sexy butch aviators, right? ;)

I don't know about you, but I can tell when a person with sunglasses is staring. You can feel the tractor beam.

Besides, the hint of a smile is a dead give-a-way.

There are no secrets! :lol:

[keltic63]

embarassed to post this now, but the dining room is nearing completion! I'm such a procrastinator!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/keltic63/1206071902.jpg

[Jennifer5]

embarassed to post this now, but the dining room is nearing completion! I'm such a procrastinator!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/keltic63/1206071902.jpg

That looks amazing!!! Very nice job!:cool:

[keltic63]

That looks amazing!!! Very nice job!:cool:

compared to this?

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/keltic63/DRbbplaster.jpg

[Jennifer5]

compared to this?

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/keltic63/DRbbplaster.jpg

Yes, compared to that!

[sailaway58]

It's looking great!

[antonyh]

Nice job on the dining room. You are very butch for a gay guy ;) I'd invite you to fix my dining room but I don't have one.

[tdogg]

Very nice Steve!!! It turned out great.

I need a kitchen remodel in the not too distant future.....??? ;)

[dsdrane]

What is it with you and my father (may he rest in peace) with bead-board??"

Don't get me wrong: I like it!

It's just a little weird, is all....

:rolleyes::D

[Jennifer5]

Nice job on the dining room. You are very butch for a gay guy ;) I'd invite you to fix my dining room but I don't have one.
Just think of him as a woman, then you don't have to use so many words "very butch gay guy"... if you say woman, it says he's feminine, often finds himself attracted to men rather then women (don't get upset people, I said often, not always), but he's strong both physically and emotionally.:D

[Jennifer5]

What is it with you and my father (may he rest in peace) with bead-board??"

Don't get me wrong: I like it!

It's just a little weird, is all....

:rolleyes::D

ummm.... what's bead-board???

[andrewlittle]

ummm.... what's bead-board???

Bead board is what is covering the bottom half of the walls in both the before and after pictures. It is very common in older houses, especially in the east.

It's the original form of panelling - but with a lot more panache. I also love to see bead board used where it would have been used in times past - like in Steve's wainscoating (lower half of wall). It is much richer looking than plain old walls, in my opinion, and even works well with very modern furniture.

Of course, I'm an old fart who also loves the slightly irregular look and patina of plaster as opposed to drywall. So take this with a grain of salt.

[Jennifer5]

Bead board is what is covering the bottom half of the walls in both the before and after pictures. It is very common in older houses, especially in the east.

It's the original form of panelling - but with a lot more panache. I also love to see bead board used where it would have been used in times past - like in Steve's wainscoating (lower half of wall). It is much richer looking than plain old walls, in my opinion, and even works well with very modern furniture.

Of course, I'm an old fart who also loves the slightly irregular look and patina of plaster as opposed to drywall. So take this with a grain of salt.

I had a feeling that it was probably that, but I really wasn't sure. I think it's neat, not my style, but it looks good.

We actually have a something that looks just like it(does that make it the same thing?) where our light-well used to be, now it's a light and wood, it looks really really good... because of the kind of light and the fact that we left the wood natural, it manages to look really good even in our style of house. :cool:

[paul]

Hey Steve,

Great job! Is that real bead board (vs. the immitation paneling bead board)? Did you take it all down and re-install it?!? You have done a great job, especially preserving the wainscoting. Can't wait to see the finished room. Are you going to add chair rail? What kind of base board you going to use...looks like an older house, are you going to use something with a cap? Nice side board btw.:tup::applause:
paul

[keltic63]

Hey Steve,

Great job! Is that real bead board (vs. the immitation paneling bead board)? Did you take it all down and re-install it?!? You have done a great job, especially preserving the wainscoting. Can't wait to see the finished room. Are you going to add chair rail? What kind of base board you going to use...looks like an older house, are you going to use something with a cap? Nice side board btw.:tup::applause:
paul

I ripped out "real" bead board, and replaced it with the imitation.....sorry. I wanted to preserve the beadboard that was on the ceiling but that wasn't possible. I've got a cap, crownmolding, and baseboard to install. We figure the house is at least 80 years old. it was originally a duplex with no bath. from the looks of things, the bath was added in the '50s and left alone since then :(

It struck me as being kind of... I don't know... gay. ;)

Just kidding Steve! Great job. When you get all the trim up it will be FABULOUS!

Yes, it's very gay! I've got a pic of the room with my tree in it now. Scott said my tree (much like last year's tree) is sooooo gay!

[paul]

I ripped out "real" bead board, and replaced it with the imitation.....sorry. I wanted to preserve the beadboard that was on the ceiling but that wasn't possible. I've got a cap, crownmolding, and baseboard to install. We figure the house is at least 80 years old. it was originally a duplex with no bath. from the looks of things, the bath was added in the '50s and left alone since then :(


Stever,
No shame in that. I have used it extensively in Victorian restorations that I have done...what you have looks very nice. Given that bead board is toe nailed it is virtually impossible to reuse. Once the cap and base are on, no one will notice the difference. :eek:, so the bath is next, eh? Galvanized plumbing no doubt...should be fun :rolleyes:. But, you are obviously up for it. Did you do your own dry wall? (I hate dry wall). It looks flawless. p

[keltic63]

Stever,
No shame in that. I have used it extensively in Victorian restorations that I have done...what you have looks very nice. Given that bead board is toe nailed it is virtually impossible to reuse. Once the cap and base are on, no one will notice the difference. :eek:, so the bath is next, eh? Galvanized plumbing no doubt...should be fun :rolleyes:. But, you are obviously up for it. Did you do your own dry wall? (I hate dry wall). It looks flawless. p


yes, we did the drywall ourselves. it's not flawless, but it's pretty good if I do say so myself. The flaws will only add character ;)

Actually, we will most likely install a bath on the second floor as part of the master suite....yeah, the only bath is between the living room and dining room :(

[Zerbie]

:lol:
Reading this thread feels like trying to read a conversation in Dutch. A lot of the words look like English, but I can't figure out what they really mean.
:p:lol:

Happy shop-talk, guys! Steve, the, umm, stuff, looks good to me too. Have fun with your project!
:)

[Jennifer5]

:lol:
Reading this thread feels like trying to read a conversation in Dutch. A lot of the words look like English, but I can't figure out what they really mean.
:p:lol:

Happy shop-talk, guys! Steve, the, umm, stuff, looks good to me too. Have fun with your project!
:)

Come on, I thought all girls knew what 'drywall' was?

[BruceChris]

So for a while, they were known as "Home Despot"

P&L, BC

[Jennifer5]

So for a while, they were known as "Home Despot"

P&L, BC

You know, it is called Homo Depot.... :rolleyes: