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tsenri veros
04-06-2006, 01:43 AM
hey, I firstly want to applaude the members of SoulForce who visited Azusa Pacific University today; your speeches and personal testimonies/experiences were more than i had even hoped to hear. in all honesty, i had expected to be faced with a panel of angry social activists, primarily because (to my understanding) SF has chosen the campuses and bases they visit based on that establishment's descriminatory policies. this made it hard for me to imagine SF's intentions of being anything other than mainly to provoke persecution of some kind, as though they intentionally set themselves up to be arrested so as to put that institution in a bad political light. I was relieved to hear that they were relieved to find APU as welcoming as it was. this attitude convinced me that SF is not attempting to martyr themselves, but to educate a specific audience.
that said, i'm a straight christian male who is VERY passionate about this issue. I have a handful of friends and relatives who are openly gay which has helped me understand their side of the debates. in response to Romans 1:27 which came up in the forum today, i definitely believe there are two kinds of homosexuality that need to be defined. there is that which is physical lust, as blatantly expressed in this verse, and there is a second kind, in which a person knows they are moreso attracted to the same sex than (at all) to the opposite sex, but do not lust after each other. I strongly believe that homosexuality may only be considered a sin as far as lust plays an active role. In this way, homosexuality is rightfully put back on the same field as heterosexuality, where lust is the common sin that drives men and women to "worship and serve created things rather than the Creator" (Romans 1:25).
ha, that's a big nutshell...it's basically where I stand today, before and after hearing SF speak. Thank you Haven for you bravery, you are an inspiration to at least this heterosexual!

Emproph
04-06-2006, 06:28 AM
It's really good to hear a before and after perspective like that. And your open attitude in knowing others who are gay and in making the Biblical distinction between being a homosexual and Biblical heterosexual sex gone wild, so to speak.

Anyway, welcome, and thanks for your input.

-hope to see you around. :rainbow:

schoolboi
04-06-2006, 07:03 AM
Thanks Tsenri. It's good to hear this kind of response.

Vanessa White
04-06-2006, 08:07 AM
I don't know if I spelled it right above, but my message is the same- thank you for your words, which fall on my ears as one of the most balanced ways in my opinion to view homosexuality in relation to the bible and God's word. I am so glad that you are here to share and to be a part of this great group, and your gay friends should consider themselves lucky and proud to have you as an ALLY and support. God Bless You, and Peace to you, Vanessa

Mia14
04-07-2006, 06:35 PM
I enjoyed hearing your beliefs and I think I feel similarly.

I really look forward to hearing you more in the forums!