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NathanATX
04-06-2006, 02:57 PM
This is a great article on the tension between humility and radical/progressive Christianity. It is by Jim Wallis at www.sojo.net

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Lenten reflection: 'Humility is difficult'
http://www.sojo.net/images/sojomail/wallis.jpgby Jim Wallis

We all know Lent is meant to be a time of reflection, deepening, and preparation for Easter. Lent is also a call to repentance and, especially, humility. With Lent's beginning on Ash Wednesday, we impose (I love that word) ashes as a very physical, visual, and tangible act of repentance and humility - a mark and act of commitment, not merely a rote ritual.

Some members of our staff have suggested to me that the events of recent weeks and months call us to humility. But humility is a difficult virtue for those who are called to a prophetic vocation - people like us.

Humility is difficult for people who think they are, or want to be, "radical Christians."

Humility is difficult when you're always calling other people - the church, the nation, and the world - to stop doing the things you think are wrong and start doing the things you think are right.

Humility is difficult for the bearers of radical messages.

When we're always calling other people to repent and change, it's not always easy to hear that message for ourselves.

I want to suggest that there is a real and very deep tension between humility and the prophetic vocation. And most prophetic Christians I have known - present company and preacher included - are really not very good at humility.

You see we are always making judgments of others - church leaders, political leaders, majority cultures - but are not often good at applying the judgment to ourselves. Even when the prophetic judgments we are making are necessary, they seldom lead us to humility. After all, we are the ones who know how other people are supposed to change. We are the ones with the answers. We are the ones who are doing it right.

How do we preach like Amos - "Let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty river!" - without becoming self-righteous ourselves? I think that is very difficult. Perhaps Micah had it right: "What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"

And we are especially prone to turn our righteous judgments on each other, at those close at hand, even within our own community - and that can be especially destructive. When that happens, if the truth be told, radical Christian communities are not always pleasant places to be.

When the prophetic indignation we offer daily to the world is turned toward those who happen to be in judging, glaring, or shouting distance of us when we decide they too have fallen short of our ideals - look out!

And let me be human and honest enough to say that leaders in church, state, and certainly faith-inspired organizations should always be held accountable, but being a leader in a prophetic Christian community is often a very hard place to be. Just look at the qualities necessary for the prophetic vocation: The capacity to speak clearly, strongly, boldly, decisively, distinctively, and of course, visibly. I would say, from my experience, that none of those qualities lead directly to humility.

Likewise, the call to be and offer an alternative reality, community, vision, lifestyle, etc., requires an energy and confidence that, again, is not necessarily prone to humility.

So what can save us radical Christians? The same thing that saves everybody else: the grace of God.

I've found myself remembering an old article prompted by a time in the life of Sojourners when these issues were very much at play. It was an article I felt quite convicted to write as a correction to ourselves, to myself, to the prophetic vocation we had chosen. I remember I stayed home from a prophetic anti-nuclear action that many of us were undertaking because I felt the need to think and write instead. It's from May of 1979. It's pretty faded now, but I think it might be relevant to us today:

"Sojourners has written much and often about the abuse and cheapening of grace. In many ways, it is the place where we began. That concern still stands; cheap grace continues to be the greatest affliction of the churches.

"Radical Christians, however, face another problem. It is the tendency to seek justification in our lifestyle, our work, our protest, our causes, our movements, our actions, our prophetic identity, and our radical self-image. It becomes an easy temptation to place our security in the things we stand for and in the things we do, instead of in what God has done. It is a temptation to depend on things other than God's grace.

"'For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God - not because of works, lest [anyone] should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).' Grace is the logic of a loving God. There is nothing we can do to earn it, win it, or deserve it. Grace is simply a gift, not a reward. We can receive it only by faith, not through good works.

"Grace saves the prophetic vocation. The knowledge and experience of grace can ease the seriousness with which we tend to take ourselves. Grace can restore our humility, our sense of humor, and our ability to laugh at ourselves. All are regularly needed by prophets.

"To trust grace is to know that the world has already been saved by Jesus Christ. It is to know that we cannot save the world any more than we can save ourselves. All our work is done only in response to Christ's work. To receive the gift of grace is to let go of self-sufficiency and to act out of a spirit of gratitude.

"Radical Christians must pursue more than a successful strategy; we must seek a deeper faith. Only then will we have the assurance of salvation, not because of what we have accomplished, but because we have allowed God's grace and mercy to flow through our lives."

This article was adapted from Jim Wallis' reflections at Sojourners' Ash Wednesday service March 1, 2006.

+ Read the full text of "Idols Closer to Home" from the May 1979 issue of Sojourners. (http://go.sojo.net/ct/N7_0BMY1omgT/)

awediot
04-06-2006, 07:32 PM
As an uncomfortable know it all myself, I can relate to the who do I think I am to condemn that or bless this, when most around me would rather not form an opinion either way. Alot of my secular friends tend to enjoy my company in doses, wishing I would just lighten up... I try, but wish as well at times they would dig a little deeper... Oh well, nothing new there.

I find keeping in mind that I am just a tool, and not a good one at that, can be humbling. I am not the source. Knowing I am likely, subconsciously slanting, exaggerating, and omitting some of it also has a great way of invoking humility. Some friends have no problem pushing me over the edge into humiliation, God bless thier helpful little, peg knocking down souls.

There is a natural difficulty when one is given Truth in a world that dismisses it. Anyone who states anything as Fact, in an environment that thinks its all subjective, is inevitably labled arrogant and close minded. However difficult, it cannot be used to silence the last thing they want to hear.

Zerbie
04-19-2006, 11:57 PM
Nathan, I greatly appreciated this thread appearing when it did, and reading Awediot's response. It has been with me ever since.

I want to discuss the matter of humility further, but articulated ideas are not forthcoming - rather, I have an emotional cloud hovering around me saying, Go back to the humility topic. There is something there.

I think this topic is too important to let it fade away. . .does anyone have something to add?

Liberal Crozier
04-20-2006, 06:06 AM
http://www.cceia.org/viewMedia.php/prmID/5218 has an interesting piece that relates to this thread. I have important wakeups to perform with both spouse and child at this present time.

I will come back to add my own insights later

Zerbie
04-20-2006, 07:49 PM
I hadn't thought of this topic in such. . .global. . .terms. But there is that, also.

On an individual level:
Does anyone here ever feel at odds with the outspokenness required of activism, and your natural temperament?

tdogg
04-20-2006, 10:54 PM
I'm a fairly outspoken person (and as such I don't always think before I speak but I'm workin' on it and there's improvement!) - but it took all of my 47 years to get me here. If I'm mentally/emotionally fatigued, I can be a bit on the quiet side unless it's a passionate issue.

Again, it took some work and personal growth, as a young person I was relatitely shy and introverted to a certain degree. :eek:

Daniel
04-20-2006, 10:55 PM
There is a natural difficulty when one is given Truth in a world that dismisses it. Anyone who states anything as Fact, in an environment that thinks its all subjective, is inevitably labled arrogant and close minded. However difficult, it cannot be used to silence the last thing they want to hear.

How does one see or experience that truth? That has been the question I found myself asking during my journey to self-acceptance. I was drawn towards Buddhism, perhaps, for the latitude of thought I found within it and also the practices which- as I found- were similar to the contemplative methods used within monastic christianity.

Humility? The question Wallis' asks- "How one does one preach like Amos - "Let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty river!" - without becoming self-righteous ourselves?"-gets to the heart of the matter and has more to do- I think- with approach rather than belief. A closed mind- that is- a mind that preseposes what the truth is- I would venture- hardly experiences anything vaguely resembing 'truth' much less 'insight'.

Buddhism has, among its teachings, an interesting concept on 'point of view'- or Right View- as it is called- which I offer below as food for thought.

Right View

Right view is not necessarily an intellectual capacity, just as wisdom is not just a matter of intelligence. Instead, right view is attained, sustained, and enhanced through all capacities of mind. It begins with the intuitive insight that all beings are subject to suffering and it ends with complete understanding of the true nature of all things. Since our view of the world forms our thoughts and our actions, right view yields right thoughts and right actions.

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/index.html

Home site: http://www.thebigview.com/about/

I would venture, based on the 'definition' above, that humility is born out of a deep understanding and experience of compassion- or the word that is used in the West- love. This is at odds with those who are more attuned towards finding fault with others.

Zerbie
04-20-2006, 11:45 PM
Daniel, thanks for those links. I glanced very quickly at those 2 pages and plan to come back in a day or two when I will have some more time to read and absorb content. Seems like what you're calling Right View is what I have called Clarity.

I really *do* need to read up on Buddhism. You know I don't have a religious orientation. But I've taken the What Religion are You? test on Beliefnet a few times in 3 or 4 years and it always rates me 100% Mahayana Buddhist and I have no idea what that is. :lol: :lol: Except that it's a bit like me, I guess.:p

As far as seeing with clarity, seeing the right view, goes - it is such a difficult (impossible?) undertaking, since we are so limited. Our instrument is limited, no? The senses, the mind - they have limitations by definition, so we can never have complete information from them, without which we cannot know "right" action. But I find this does not generate humility, only a sense of paralysis - how dare I act? How dare I speak *as if I know?!* That is not humility. no, it is confusion and ignorance with a grain of futility thrown in.

Tdogg - thanks for responding to my question. Such a process we go through! Excellent observation about the change in energy level and how that influences whether or not we speak out, and to what degree. I have noticed my own level of aggression (for lack of a more apt word) in activism is in constant flux.

Some times I simply cannot muster the energy to speak up even if nothing is at stake. My natural tendency is to remain soft-spoken and quiet. By nature, I'm shy. But when things go terribly amiss, I feel compelled beyond the boundaries of my nature to speak out strongly. And this creates a disturbance inside. I don't think it has anything to do with humility. I don't think I am humble at all. To the contrary, I am astounded at my arrogance.

And then that confuses me again. :confused: :o

Daniel
04-21-2006, 12:39 AM
You know I don't have a religious orientation. But I've taken the What Religion are You? test on Beliefnet a few times in 3 or 4 years and it always rates me 100% Mahayana Buddhist and I have no idea what that is. :lol: :lol: Except that it's a bit like me, I guess.:p

I hear ya! I laughingly think of myself as openly gay and a closet Buddhist. Mahayana means Middle- the Middle Way. This must mean that you are the perfect go-between! :)

awediot
04-21-2006, 02:04 AM
My Christian closet is decorated much more conservatively than my queer one. I have been spending more time in it lately and my tastes are getting better. Oops that wasn't very humble. I try...

With out a doubt, from being cautious not to begin too many sentences with I, I, I this or I that, to the gouge when I see in others eyes they miss the fact that I am condemning myself too when ranting about lieing. I am a poor example of what I preach, but I can not preach any less to make my self feel better. Or you. This makes me a hypocrite, and I'll own that. I am also wrong on some big things and cause more damage than I know. Uhh... that is harder to take, but know it to be True---- I believe we are eternal beings and tend to treat people that way. Which can make short and seem uncaring. I do adore people. Individal people. As a whole, we suck. We were made for so much better than this. The emotions wasted on redundant, self imposed pains breaks my heart, and seeing the solution just sitting there, right in front of them, is too much sometimes...
....the topic, oh yeah, humility... any one else. My comprehension is beyond you peons...:p

How does one see or experience that truth?

Just patterns, same actions bring the same results.Then those results link and confirm others. Truth builds and compiles...
It is that very "latitude of thought I found within it..." ,and the eternal, insistent openmindedness, unable to bite into anything not possibly just in my head, that doesn't drive me away from buddhism, but forces me to shore it up, and elaborate on. Much of it rings beautifully True in a way my own faith failes miserably, but a mind must close on some things, some time. The unwitnessed tree is just as loud... If this stumps curiousity, I'm done.

I too, am astounded at my arrogance, but I am aware of that arrogance:), which makes me feel bad:( which makes me feel proud of feeling bad:D which makes me feel worse:'(, but makes the feeling bad feel not bad enough:confused::mad:, which makes me go to bed...:sick:

Kudos to us for broaching this topic ! "How Stuck-up are You?" wouldn't be a popular Advocate headline either.:weee:,:disagree:,:rolleyes:,:cool:

Zerbie
04-21-2006, 11:25 AM
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I too, am astounded at my arrogance, but I am aware of that arrogance:), which makes me feel bad:( which makes me feel proud of feeling bad:D which makes me feel worse:'(, but makes the feeling bad feel not bad enough:confused::mad:, which makes me go to bed...:sick:

Kudos to us for broaching this topic ! "How Stuck-up are You?" wouldn't be a popular Advocate headline either.:weee:,:disagree:,:rolleyes:,:cool:

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah.

I'm aware of arrogance. It makes me shrug philosophically, b/c I see where it once helped me survive. Now prompts me to act when I would otherwise be shy and retiring, and then be angry at myself for not acting. But otoh, there is a disturbance inside because this trait of arrogance doesn't ring true to who I really am. :confused: :rolleyes: :(
Oh well.:p


Daniel, thank you for the 'definition'. Now I suppose I know "what" I am, huh? ;)

Daniel
04-21-2006, 11:46 AM
Daniel, thank you for the 'definition'. Now I suppose I know "what" I am, huh? ;)


Never let another person define you! Isn't that the Right View? :lol:

Zerbie
04-21-2006, 12:28 PM
Never let another person define you! Isn't that the Right View? :lol:


BWAAAAAhaaaaa!!!!!!

Touché, mon ami! Touché.

:D