View Full Version : Rant on Prop 8
11-08-2008, 08:37 AM
The following are my reflections on those who supported Prop 8 in California, but I'm sure it would apply to Florida, Arizona and Arkansas as well. Just some negative thoughts I needed to get off my chest and into words.
They call themselves Christians. Those who supported proposition 8 which eliminated the right for gay couples to marry.
Christians who believed it was ok to bear false witness, to judge others, to discriminate and to exploit children to promote their own agenda.
These Christians never confronted the actual issue which was: should two people who love each other, be allowed to marry. They completely overshadowed and hid the issue beneath scare tactics and lies.
These Christians triumphed their cause under the banner of "Protect Marriage"; protect it from what? The loving couples who have been together, some for 30, 40 even 50 years.
These Christians who do not, do unto others as they would have done unto themselves.
These Christians who do not have love, one for another.
These Christians do not sound very Christian at all.
11-08-2008, 08:56 PM
This anger has burned inside all of us, especially those who have ever taken that label. They are the kind that make us cry out in frustration and want to cast away our beliefs.
11-08-2008, 10:26 PM
Through our spiritual experiences, and through the findings of science.
If a believer chooses to believe their understanding of the Bible over the findings of science, they should have the courage of their faith to proclaim that the sun revolves around the earth, and that is all there is to it.
Peace, Love, and in your face now and then, Bruce Chris
11-08-2008, 10:30 PM
I totally agree Labguy. This "christian" church has nothing at all to do with the real Christ. I think if he were walking around in human form again here and now, he would hang his head much like he did over Jerusalem and said in essence, "I was sent here to show you the way, but you did it your way, and ignored me. From now on, you will have to pay for this mistake and learn the hard way. I wish you would have listened to me, and learn that I take love very seriously. When you don't show love to others, you don't have a clue as to who I am, or what I came to do. You make me ashamed to be your savior."
This is not Christianity. It is fear and hate. That comes from satan himself. No one should ever confuse the two. Jesus=love, mercy, forgiveness, patience, and justice. Satan is the exact and complete opposite. So did these people show love, mercy, patience, forgiveness or did they show hatred, fear, impulsivity, and unfairness? My guess is the latter and that does not smack of Christ.:rolleyes:
11-10-2008, 02:23 PM
What's funny is that Christians accuse our community of "crying persecution," but if someone is arrested in China for carrying a Bible, they go ape-sh*t. LGBT people are disowened by family, beaten and murdered, but everyone who has any sense knows that's not oppression... yeah. However, when they are the ones being mistreated, it's a whole different story.
Double standards and pot lucks, these are the things of American Christianity.
11-25-2008, 08:53 PM
I know it's hard, but there's one good thing: the ban only passed by about 52% whereas in 2000 it passed by 61%. The demographics are shifting in our favor. Just give it time.
And for anyone who voted yes on 8, enjoy the victory while you've got it, because I predict that within the next 20 years, things will be quite different!
11-25-2008, 09:03 PM
Watched Olbermann tonight and heard him report that 8 percent of those who voted for Prop 8 have changed their mind.
Now isn't that interesting? Apparently, if the vote was taken today it would have a different outcome. Why? Because we went out into the streets. That's what I think.
Change, I believe, is coming sooner than 20 years. ;) Either the court will find it unconstitutional, or it will be on the ballot in the next election. Either way, I am betting (and I am not a betting man) we win!
11-25-2008, 10:18 PM
I was going to mention a huge event today - the judge tossing out the Florida law banning gay couples from adoption. But I see it has its own thread (and deservedly so).
Thanks for the optimism Daniel, I really need some of that today. :pray::)
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