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Jordan0517
11-20-2008, 10:52 PM
I was curious (but scared to know) what exactly this author or whoever he is says about gay being a sin? From what ive read from other articles and whanot about the gay arguement, i hear that this Richard guy sounds pretty convincing versus the others who are against gay people.

I dont like to read about people and what they have to say about us cause it breaks my heart but i figured i might need to because it may somehow make me a stronger person 9do i make sense?) lol.

Rick336
11-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Richard Hayes says:

"We must affirm that the New Testament tells us the truth about ourselves as sinners and as God's sexual creatures: marriage between man and woman is then normative form for human sexual fulfilment, and homosexuality is one among many tragic signs that we are a broken people, alienated from God's loving purpose. "

What's broken are people like Richard Hayes who still believe first century thinking can fit twenty-first century living. Back when the Bible was written, everybody still believed the sun rotated around the earth. But they were wrong about that too.


Rick

Matt Algren
11-21-2008, 10:07 AM
I was curious (but scared to know) what exactly this author or whoever he is says about gay being a sin? From what ive read from other articles and whanot about the gay arguement, i hear that this Richard guy sounds pretty convincing versus the others who are against gay people.

I dont like to read about people and what they have to say about us cause it breaks my heart but i figured i might need to because it may somehow make me a stronger person 9do i make sense?) lol.
The Bible doesn't say what he says it says. He makes the same mistakes in translation and interpretation that the others do. He just uses better and more specific language, which people tend to [falsely] equate with truth.

Nothing new here.

P.S. Stand tall! You aren't broken, and your love isn't any less honorable than a straight person's. You're a child of God, and neither Hays nor anyone else can take that away, no matter how hard they try.

CaptainSnoopy
11-21-2008, 10:10 AM
The Bible doesn't say what he says it says. He makes the same mistakes in translation and interpretation that the others do. He just uses better and more specific language, which people tend to [falsely] equate with truth.

Nothing new here.

Good answer. If you want to get his book, that is fine. I would also purchase a good study bible and a book about hermeneutics (the science of interpreting the bible) and see where he is guilty of eisegesis and opposed to quality exegesis.