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AJLove
01-05-2009, 09:22 AM
I was wondering how does homosexuality coside to the story of Adam and eve? Just wondering. :):love:
Matt Algren
01-05-2009, 11:20 AM
I don't understand the question. Homosexuality isn't addressed in Genesis, so it's kind of like asking about the way Adam and Eve felt about microwave ovens.
keltic63
01-05-2009, 12:46 PM
come to think of it, Matt, cats aren't mentioned in the Bible either. I wonder how Adam and Eve reconciled that to their reality?
antiochian
01-05-2009, 12:49 PM
Onan was killed for spilling his seed, but most Christians who condemn lgbt's could care less about using birth control. :eek: (Catholics excluded)
Rick336
01-05-2009, 01:25 PM
I think the tree of knowledge probably had an opinion about homosexuality. The tree knew everything about everything. Unfortunately it wasn't a talking tree so all it could do was stand in the garden all day holding apples. I kind of feel sorry for the tree because I think it would be really hard to know everything and not be able to talk about it.
It really seems unfair that the snake could talk but the tree couldn't. But then I guess if the tree could talk then the snake and the tree would eventually get into arguments and then the garden wouldn't be much of a paradise anymore.
Anyway, I'm sure the tree thought gay marriage was cool.
Rick
antiochian
01-05-2009, 01:33 PM
I think the tree of knowledge probably had an opinion about homosexuality. The tree knew everything about everything. Unfortunately it wasn't a talking tree so all it could do was stand in the garden all day holding apples. I kind of feel sorry for the tree because I think it would be really hard to know everything and not be able to talk about it.
It really seems unfair that the snake could talk but the tree couldn't. But then I guess if the tree could talk then the snake and the tree would eventually get into arguments and then the garden wouldn't be much of a paradise anymore.
Anyway, I'm sure the tree thought gay marriage was cool.
Rick
If this garden was paradise, why were there snakes there in the first place? Yuck!
dsdrane
01-05-2009, 01:53 PM
I think the tree of knowledge probably had an opinion about homosexuality. The tree knew everything about everything. Unfortunately it wasn't a talking tree so all it could do was stand in the garden all day holding apples. I kind of feel sorry for the tree because I think it would be really hard to know everything and not be able to talk about it.
It really seems unfair that the snake could talk but the tree couldn't. But then I guess if the tree could talk then the snake and the tree would eventually get into arguments and then the garden wouldn't be much of a paradise anymore.
Anyway, I'm sure the tree thought gay marriage was cool.
Rick
:applause:
Daniel
01-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Didn't they do that in the Wizard of Oz? And thow apples? I think I see a theme here.
Rick336
01-05-2009, 05:15 PM
Didn't they do that in the Wizard of Oz? And thow apples? I think I see a theme here.:lol:
Wouldn't that be a hoot? Eve picks an apple from the tree of knowledge and the tree shouts, "Hey! What do you think you're doing?!!" And then the tree throws apples at her and she runs around picking apples up off the ground. :lol:
Rick
Unmasked
01-13-2009, 09:50 PM
Snakes are representative of male sexuality. Look at them. They're so phallic. Apples obviously represent feminine sexuality, with them carrying the seed and giving birth to magic trees of appley goodness, and thus the Genesis story is saying that sex is dirty and wicked, and the reason that life sucks. Think about it, Original Sin. We are born dirty, naked, and screaming as we are pulled from a dark and scary hole that about ten percent of us never ever want to see again. Sex should totally stop, and we should have all of our young born from machines.
But really, what is wrong with wanting to know? Only a jerk puts a tree of tasty fruit in the middle of a garden and tells you not to touch it. Anyhow, life isn't so bad now. We don't live forever, but do any of us really want to? Honestly, the only part I don't like is not being able to walk around in public with my parts exposed. But I hear there are special camps for that these days.
Oh, speaking of apple throwing, could you imagine getting hit in the naughty bits with an apple? Naked apple fights are no good!
BruceChris
01-15-2009, 12:24 AM
We are born dirty, naked, and screaming as we are pulled from a dark and scary hole that about ten percent of us never ever want to see again.
Right off, you're dissing the lesbians. If you stop and do the math, the number would have to be five percent.
Sex should totally stop, and we should have all of our young born from machines.
Now I'm not sure about machines, but there is a place in Madison, Wisc. that calls itself "A Womb of One's Own". Anyway, I think that's what they call it. (How many of us have always secretly wished that we could be pregnant?) But a machine? Sheesh!
And now Drane, try to remember that it was Not the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it was the tree of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.
So right away you know that if you really want to know what's going on, you have to start out by asking a fruit, because only we, I mean THEY really know the score.
BC
wmanion
01-15-2009, 06:14 AM
The whole premise of many of the anti-gay people is the Adam and Eve story. They would like to claim that any deviation of how God created Adam and Eve is not normal. However, I am sure that since Eve was created from Adam that they most certainly shared the same DNA which would mean that they would also share the same blood type. As we know there are many different variations of blood type, so does that mean that everyone that has a different blood type than Adam and Eve are unnatural and not how God created them to be? Does that mean anyone with different blood types or eye color that were not the original eye color of Adam and Eve, or different skin color, or different sexual orientations are just mutations and therefore unnatural as far as the way God created the first two human beings? When you look at the scope of all the variables that are different from the original Adam and Eve, you have to come to the conclusion that their logic just does not hold water.
Bill
sjbouza
01-15-2009, 10:52 AM
Onan was killed for spilling his seed, but most Christians who condemn lgbt's could care less about using birth control. :eek: (Catholics excluded)
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
As I read this story, unless I am thinking of another one, Onan was not killed for "spilling his seed". That is what the "christian sect" wants their followers to believe so they can condemn masterbation. He was killed for not fulfilling his duty to provide his dead brother with an heir. He was killed because he didn't boink his sister-in-law and give her a child so his brothers line would carry on.
You see them doing this to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah too. They want to condemn something so they twist the words or just disreguard entire sections to "prove" their point. This is, at least as I see it, how they can justify to themselves that they are doing the "godly thing" because that is what "the bible says".
Well, there is a verse in Lev that says you can cook and eat your children too. So get the pots ready all you good ole literal bible believing "christians" out there. I wonder what is for dinner at the Warren house tonight?
Peace,
Scott
Alecto
01-15-2009, 05:51 PM
I would guess that they would argue (as Catholics have argued) that the duty Onan was avoiding can be compared to the duty married Catholics have to be open to having children. Cause, that's why you're married or something, and if you didn't want children you should have chosen a different vocation. It still shouldn't be a condemnation (and the only reference I ever heard about this verse from years of Catholic school was from a Jesuit who explained it exactly as you did, if perhaps a bit more vulgarly) of single-guy masturbation, but could be seen as an argument against birth control.
Rick336
01-15-2009, 08:15 PM
When you look at the scope of all the variables that are different from the original Adam and Eve, you have to come to the conclusion that their logic just does not hold water.
Bill
Anyone who takes the Adam and Eve story seriously has to believe that snakes can talk and trees can think. I think that's probably as far away from logic as one can get.
Rick
Special Agent JamBor
01-18-2009, 10:47 AM
Homosexuality isn't mentioned there. Of course, people use this as a reason to condemn homosexuality. Interestingly enough, no where does it mention that that is God's plan for EVERYONE. The story shows God's intent for populating the Earth and starting the human population. It doesn't say anywhere that that is what needs to be followed.
Yeah, I understand it says, "be fruitful and multiply" but if that is to be taken seriously, then a lot of Christians are sinning. Do priests procreate? What about single people? They're not condemned by the church because they are violating God's plan.
Niether should homosexuals..........
andrewlittle
01-18-2009, 11:52 AM
Homosexuality isn't mentioned there. Of course, people use this as a reason to condemn homosexuality. Interestingly enough, no where does it mention that that is God's plan for EVERYONE. The story shows God's intent for populating the Earth and starting the human population. It doesn't say anywhere that that is what needs to be followed.
Yeah, I understand it says, "be fruitful and multiply" but if that is to be taken seriously, then a lot of Christians are sinning. Do priests procreate? What about single people? They're not condemned by the church because they are violating God's plan.
Niether should homosexuals..........
I think I like you, and the way you think. Blessings to you.
Why don't you give us an introductory thread, just so we can know what you'd like us to know.
Andy
Unmasked
01-18-2009, 07:02 PM
Fair enough Bruce, although that ten percent number is a bit out there. Is it ten percent of all humans, or ten percent within the respective sex groups. And does that include all GLBT people or just homosexuals. Also, there is a small portion of humanity that has no interest in anybody's naughty bits.
But you know what's really unnatural? Clothing. If you subscribe to the Genesis story, clothing is the mark of sin. If we were really concerned with what's natural and right, we would cast off these abominations, be they 100% cotton or a polyesther blend!
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