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sjbouza
01-05-2009, 12:51 PM
It is that time of year again folks for good ole Pat Robertson to have his "big sit down" with the Almighty. This year God has spoken to Pat and told him a great deal that is going to be happening this year. Well, maybe, that is if Pat "heard God right". I guess Pat is getting hard of hearing in his old age, not being able to completely hear what God is saying to him. I guess all those prayers for healing aren't falling on God's ears either...:pray::'(:lol::eek:.

Here are the exerpts from Pats conversation with God...

You can see the YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5VrJmgzItM&eurl=http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85243&feature=player_embedded) of Pat's predictions too...




WND VIDEONETDAILY
Pat Robertson: God says U.S. will accept socialism
Broadcaster's annual predictions also assure economic turnaround
Posted: January 03, 2009
6:34 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Pat Robertson

Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, announced at his staff's annual prayer retreat that God told him Americans would embrace socialism in 2009 "in order to relieve their pain" and that the economy would rebound under an Obama administration.

"The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover," Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.

Robertson said God also declared, "The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s."

In a follow-up interview he granted to Terry Meeuwsen, his co-host on CBN's The 700 Club, Robertson added, "It will be the largest transfer of power to Washington since the '30s. But people are willing to accept it because the pain has been so bad."

In a CBN-produced video clip containing both the predictions and the interview, Meeuwsen points out that Robertson has been right on his predictions before. At the beginning of 2008, for example, Robertson correctly predicted the year would include a world-wide recession, a stock market crash, oil hitting $150 (it hit $147) per barrel, and gold topping $1000 an ounce, which it did in March 2008.

n the interview with Meeuwsen, Robertson assures Americans that contrary to many economists' opinions, the economic recovery will be swift.

"Cast off the gloom and the doom," Robertson says, "because things are getting ready to turn around."

Robertson's New Year's Day predictions for 2009 also offered reassurance for Israel with words demonstrating that he had foreseen the country's military actions today in the Gaza Strip.

"Israel is entering a period of extreme crisis," Robertson said. "A strong government that deals forcefully with the Palestinians will bring international condemnation and sanctions against Israel, but the Lord will uphold his people despite world opinion."

Not all of Robertson's predictions, however, are quite so rosy.

Socialist policies and massive government spending, Robertson told Meeuwsen, could lead to heavy hyperinflation, sending prices through the roof and the value of the dollar through the floor.

"The Lord said the dollar is going to go down dramatically," Robertson said in the interview. "If I'm hearing him right, gold will go to about $1900 dollars an ounce and oil to $300 a barrel."

As a result, Robertson warned, "People are not going to trust the United States any longer as the leader in financial matters."

On a more spiritual theme, Robertson concluded his New Year's Day predictions by declaring that God says now is the time for Christians to expand their outreach and evangelism around the world, especially toward Muslims.

"The whole of Islam is weakening. The violence and bloodshed has turned many against this religion of hate," Robertson declared.

"There has never been, nor will there ever be, a more propitious time for the gospel," he announced. "People by the tens of millions will be seeking answers. They will gladly receive the forgiveness of sins that was bought by the death of Jesus Christ."

Now Pat has been right before, but he has also been wrong. Hummmm...that makes me think. If Pat is truly receiving these messages from God, wouldn't he be right 100% of the time? So if Pat makes a "prediction from God" that does not come true, who is lying, him or God?

ROBERTSON IS A FRIGGIN NUTCASE!!! He doesn't talk directly with God anymore than my dog talks to me. If he truly did hear from God then what he says will come to pass 100% of the time with no exception. If God is speaking to Pat then I doubt it is the God of the Bible. I think it is the "god" in his wallet that he thinks is the "one true god".

Peace,
Scott

keltic63
01-05-2009, 01:29 PM
who does he think he is? Jeane Dixon? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeane_Dixon)

FoxInSox
01-05-2009, 01:30 PM
Scott,

What are you talking about? My dogs talk to me...you are really missing out, man ;)

Pat Robertson's beliefs and preaching are so ... odd.

Besides, the prediction that the US will become more socialist and the dollar will recover? Well, duh...I could have said that :p

Why is socialism touted as such a bad, evil thing by conservatives? (Real question). Canada and much of Europe have many things (ie, healthcare!) socialized, and it seems to be working out well. :confused:

antiochian
01-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Yeah, he also said that the world would end in 1982. F-R-A-U-D.

Alecto
01-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Wait, so...the economy will recover, except, um, sort of only kind of and then no it won't?
SAFEST PREDICTION EVAR.

Matt Algren
01-05-2009, 02:04 PM
Aside of the inherent silliness of the whole thing and the Bible saying some things about not predicting the future, under Robertson Rules, if you predict something and it doesn't happen it still counts (http://hamptonroads.com/2008/01/pat-robertson-predicts-violence,-recession-2008).

He also cited information from God when he predicted on a year go that major U.S. cities would be hit by "very serious terrorist attacks" causing "possibly millions" of deaths.

No such catastrophe occurred.

"All I can think is that somehow the people of God prayed and God in his mercy spared us," Robertson said on "The 700 Club," a television show he hosts on the Christian Broadcasting Network, based in Virginia Beach.

"So did I miss it? Possibly," he said of his unrealized prediction. "Or, on the other hand, did God avert it? Possibly. But whatever, it didn't happen, so I think we can all rejoice."

BrianB
01-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Wait, so...the economy will recover, except, um, sort of only kind of and then no it won't?
SAFEST PREDICTION EVAR.

It could rain unless the sun is out. People will die in car crashes this year. Pat Robertson will be taken away by men in white coats. :D:pray: This prediction stuff is fun!

Daniel
01-05-2009, 08:20 PM
You know, the research shows that even the best psychics are only 80% correct. That leaves a 20% margin of 'error'.

Now. I haven't studied Pat's numbers, and even how they were kept, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the man is perceptive as far as metaphysics is concerned. Big deal. My take is that we all have this ability. It's just that some of us are more aware of it than others.

As anyone who has sat on a cushion and meditated can probably tell you, odd experiences do happen- that is- psychic phenomena. However, most people don't attribute this activity to a deity.

Rick336
01-05-2009, 09:43 PM
Pat Robertson thinks Jesus is sending him telepathic messages about the future? Is he wearing his aluminum foil hat?

Rick

pnggrad79
01-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Now I am scared. If Pat Robertson says it, then it must be true! (sarcasm intended)

Eugene
01-05-2009, 10:25 PM
Ridicule aside, Pat Robertson's predictions reflect sound economic theory. A lot of people who don't claim to have heard from God say the actions of the Treasury and Federal Reserve will lead to hyperinflation and that such is virtually certain because of the explosive growth in the money supply (in the past 2 months).

I hope he's right about an economic recovery.

Daniel
01-06-2009, 12:28 AM
Pat Robertson thinks Jesus is sending him telepathic messages about the future? Is he wearing his aluminum foil hat?


I think the best psychics- like TV- are switching over to HD in February. Pat's gonna have to get a convertor box to go with that foil.

Alecto
01-06-2009, 01:17 AM
I have a friend who tends to have a very metaphysical view of the world, and she's talked about what she sees coming in the near-ish future. I don't tend to think I'm particularly gifted or studied in that department, but I looked at some world events and environmental conditions and I could predict all the same things. I'm not really commenting on this, except to say that it just happened here too and that it's kind of interesting.

Rick336
01-07-2009, 12:27 AM
Rick336 knows all.:agree:


Here are my top 16 predictions for 2009. ( posted on January 7, 2009 )

1. There will be a snowstorm in the Midwest between January 7th and April 15th that will cause airport delays and rescheduling. Lost baggage will also be a problem.

Chicago got a foot of snow today. Some flight schedules at O'Hare Airport were canceled.
January 10, 2009

2. Chocolate candy sales will begin to rise shortly before February 14th but drop off sharply after Easter.

February 11, 2009 USA Today Financial

More than 8 billion candy "conversation hearts" will hit stores this year. You could pocket some profits on the 1.5 billion chocolate Kisses that will sell for V-day this year through shares of The Hershey Company. The candy-bar and peanut-butter-cup maker seems to be benefiting as consumers trade down from boutique-label imported chocolates. Hershey, one of the rare blue-chip stocks that are up from a year ago, posted strong results for its fourth quarter, boosting profits per share by 9%, to $0.59. At $35.80, the stock (HSY) trades for 18 times estimated 2009 earnings per share of $1.95.



3. Before the end of 2009 there will be unrest somewhere in the Middle East.

4. Between January and the end of December a US congressman will be involved in a scandal.

5. The cost of gas will go up and then down and then up and then down but not necessarily in that order.

6. A tornado will touchdown somewhere in the U.S. and witnesses will compare its sound to a freight train.

February 11, 2009

Oklahoma tornado leaves 8 confirmed dead; death toll

“There’s nothing left ... twisted metal, cars turned upside down, cars in trees.”
Harris, who lives just down the road from some of the most hard hit areas, said he and his family rode the storm out in a tornado shelter.

“It really does sound like a freight train coming through,” he said, describing the roar of the devastating storm.



7. During a festival in a major U.S. city, a man will dress in women's clothes and ride on a parade float through the center of town.

8. In late summer all major networks will announce to the public a plan to air new TV shows scheduled for the fall.

9. Between January and November a LGBT magazine or newspaper will print a story about Harvey Milk.

Advocate January 24, 2009

Despite garnering only one nomination at the Golden Globes, Milk swept up eight nominations for the upcoming Academy Awards.

Milk tells the story of the rise and unfortunate death of LGBT rights pioneer and San Francisco politician Harvey Milk. The film took on a deeper meaning upon its release. On the heels of the passing of Prop. 8 in California, gay audiences turned to the film as a source of inspiration to keep the fight for equality alive.


10. Within the next 12 months a wildfire will flare up in California.

11. An American sports figure will be involved in a divorce.

12. A minister of a church in a state somewhere in the southeastern U.S. will make an announcement to his congregation that the media is controlled by liberals.

13. Hillary Clinton will not run for president in 2009.

14. Before the end of the year the number of babies born in China will increase.

15. Sometime in the late summer and early fall, a storm will form in the Atlantic with winds and precipitation seen as a concern.

16. In the West and South entire hillsides of small evergreens will disappear shortly after Thanksgiving. At this same time, retail stores will experience an increase in business.


Let's check back a year from now to see if any of these came true.

Rick

tdogg
01-07-2009, 06:58 PM
4. Between January and the end of December a US congressman will be involved in a scandal.


Just one congressman? :eek::lol::rofl:

BrianB
01-07-2009, 08:33 PM
PRAISE THE LORD! HALLELUJAH! Jesus has spoken to Brother Rick in prophecy. (That was of course very tongue in cheek.) :D

FoxInSox
01-07-2009, 09:00 PM
"4. Between January and the end of December a US congressman will be involved in a scandal. "

Brother Rick is already proving his prophetic talents! (Burris)

tymejumper
01-08-2009, 06:16 PM
Pat Robertson thinks Jesus is sending him telepathic messages about the future? Is he wearing his aluminum foil hat?

Rick



Naw, I say he's wearing his Nikes waiting for HalBop commet to come around again.......

BruceChris
01-08-2009, 07:23 PM
But what would really help, would be if he could help me to learn the difference between these two president Bushs. I'm terribly confused, I'm sure it all has to do with the similarity in the names.

Let's see now here, there's George Herbert Walker Bush,

And that other one, that's George Herbert Hoover Bush.

I got that right, didn't I?

BC
I've been waiting for a thread of sufficient sillyness to cover my letting loose with that one!

Eugene
01-08-2009, 08:02 PM
I have an idea that whoever convinced Pat Robertson about the economic outlook is more astute than the economists advising Obama. I ended up voting for Obama based on his support for ENDA, but the talk of several years of trillion dollar deficits is already making me think I may have made a mistake.

sjbouza
01-10-2009, 12:22 PM
I ended up voting for Obama based on his support for ENDA, but the talk of several years of trillion dollar deficits is already making me think I may have made a mistake.

But you have to look at the fact that Obama isn't the reason for the HUGE deficit that we are in. It has been 8 years of Bush running the show that has put us in this situation. I truly feel for Mr. Obama, he has a very large plate to digest in his first four years as President. It is not going to be easy, it wouldn't matter who was in office. I don't think that anyone that voted for Obama "made a mistake". I think he is the one that is going to be able to get something done and get us on the right road.

I know how some of you feel about the Warren issue here on the forums. I too felt "betrayed" initially. However, looking at it from another prospective I can see his reasoning. He isn't governing from the left or right, he is taking the centralist point. Trying to include everyone. I am not happy by any means by his picking of Warren, but I am not all that surprised either. I don't feel he is throwing the LGBT community under the bus and is going to forget about us. I think he is trying to open the doors on every side so we can find the common ground that we all need.

It isn't going to happen tomorrow, in a week or even a year. But from the way I have been seeing Obama handling things thus far I am happy. It is how I hoped he would govern. As a President he MUST be central to all things. I am not saying he can't lean left or right on certain issues, but I can see that he is trying to be open and fair to all that are in this mess. The war in the middle east, and now one in Gaza, the financial crisis this country is in. These are all things that are going to take time and attention. That means that LGBT issues may not be on the forefront of the Presidents agenda. I can understand that, I am not happy, but I can understand. Prioritizing is what is needed.

Our time will come and I feel it will be soon. The constructor of the DOMA is calling for its repeal. This is a HUGE step. Without the DOMA, then states will have to recognize marriages no matter where they are performed. This is a HUGE door that could be opened for the LGBT community. Just give him time people. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Let him show by "his actions" and not jump to conclusions to quickly. I think that is a hard thing to do when you have been fighting for so long. But if you can just let him show himself and what he is going to do before you condemn him, I think he will surprise you.

My 2 cents.

Peace,
Scott

Matt Algren
01-10-2009, 05:09 PM
I know how some of you feel about the Warren issue here on the forums. I too felt "betrayed" initially. However, looking at it from another prospective I can see his reasoning. He isn't governing from the left or right, he is taking the centralist point. Trying to include everyone. I am not happy by any means by his picking of Warren, but I am not all that surprised either. I don't feel he is throwing the LGBT community under the bus and is going to forget about us. I think he is trying to open the doors on every side so we can find the common ground that we all need.I'm going to keep saying it because I think it's important: Bigots should never have a seat at the table, no matter how popular they are.

We should expect and demand better from our elected officials.

Rick336
01-10-2009, 06:45 PM
I'm going to keep saying it because I think it's important: Bigots should never have a seat at the table, no matter how popular they are.

We should expect and demand better from our elected officials.

:applause:


Rick

Rick336
01-10-2009, 06:49 PM
Here are my top 16 predictions for 2009.

1. There will be a snowstorm in the Midwest between January 7th and April 15th that will cause airport delays and rescheduling. Lost baggage will also be a problem.

Chicago got a foot of snow today. Some flight schedules at O'Hare Airport were canceled.

I am psychic. :agree:


Rick

Eugene
01-11-2009, 09:51 AM
But you have to look at the fact that Obama isn't the reason for the HUGE deficit that we are in. It has been 8 years of Bush running the show that has put us in this situation.

I wasn't talking about the huge deficit that we're in. I was talking about the gargantuan deficits that Obama is proposing.

andrewlittle
01-11-2009, 10:43 AM
I wasn't talking about the huge deficit that we're in. I was talking about the gargantuan deficits that Obama is proposing.

Growth in deficit:
In each of the years from 2003 to 2007, the deficit grew more than half a trillion dollars ($550b, $600b, $550b, $570b, $500b respectively).
In fiscal year 2008, which ended 9/30/2008, the deficit grew $1.02 trillion.
This fiscal year - in just slightly over 3 months - the deficit has already grown $1.04 trillion, and that doesn't include more than half of the bank bailout and the whole big-3 car company bailout.

For the rest of this fiscal year, until 9/30/09, we are already committed to another $400b for bailouts, $550b for the war, and $470b just to pay the interest on what Bush has borrowed to wage war. All that is on top of the projected $560b deficit already in Bush's budget.

That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger. So, you're saying that Obama is engineering a major increase in deficit, eh?

Think what ya gotta!

Eugene
01-11-2009, 02:10 PM
That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger. So, you're saying that Obama is engineering a major increase in deficit, eh?


I'm saying that Obama's claim that we must be prepared for several years of trillion-dollar deficits is financial insanity. That's all.

Oh, and he's also talking about huge tax cuts on top of massive stimulus. It sounds as if there is only an acceleration of current fiscal irresponsibility in the works.

Daniel
01-11-2009, 03:15 PM
For the rest of this fiscal year, until 9/30/09, we are already committed to another $400b for bailouts, $550b for the war, and $470b just to pay the interest on what Bush has borrowed to wage war. All that is on top of the projected $560b deficit already in Bush's budget.

That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger.


If our country was a car, you might say it was totaled. Getting it rebuilt? That's going to take some doing. I'm not pessimistic per se, but I don't think we realize just how bad things are, and what's it's going to take to turn things around.

It isn't going to be pretty.