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Highlander
09-14-2009, 09:37 AM
My name is Ewan Gurr and I bring greetings from Scotland. I would like to share with you a little of the journey I have been on.

I am 23 years old and an evangelical Christian who attends an AoG (known for its anti-gay rhetoric) church and has since childhood. I was born and raised by loving parents who never forced their faith on me. However, I went my own way through drugs, alcohol, politics and came full circle when I had my first real experience of Jesus. Having fully committed my life to Christ in 2005, I found myself within the space of a year feeling challenged by God to get rid of a lot of the baggage I had brought into my relationship with him. I disliked foreigners, I had little tolerance for Muslims and really had an issue with homosexuals. Jesus broke down the racial, religious and gender barriers with the woman at the well. I knew where my racial and religious barriers lay, and I considered my gender barrier to be, in my world, between me and the homosexual community.

The first thing I did was to join a Nigerian Church bible study before going to Uganda twice in 2008, in addition to getting my haircuts at the Muslim barber and finally, I chose to start connecting with homosexuals at the local Gay Nightclub (Out) and share the love of Jesus. The hardest challenge was definitely the latter. I prayed 'God help me overcome my prejudice' and I reluctantly walked across the street to 'Out' that first night and was confronted with a gentle young gay man called Patrick. I've never felt the love of God well up within me as I did with that young man and from this day to that, I still wince when I hear words like 'faggot' and 'poof' since those words now carry such a gracious face. That night broke me and my prejudice! My Pastor said to me: 'You won't get any fruit from the Gay Club' but I don't exactly think the kind of fruit he is looking for is the kind of 'lasting fruit' Jesus was speaking of in John 15. Isn't the dismantling of my inhibitions against a community of people Jesus loves 'lasting fruit'?

Since then, I've been on a journey that has only confronted more internal barriers. As recently as four months ago, the Church of Scotland were torn by the induction of a practicing homosexual minister and the evangelical 'wing' of CoS sent out an E-Mail petitioning against it. I, being a Christian worker to the less fortunate, received the E-Mail and although I had reservations about the whole issue, I could not bring myself to sign it. You see Mel, I love homosexuals but have until recently, believed without question the practice of homosexuality to be a sin.

Nevertheless, I did not sign it and instead, connected with a young gay man and his lesbian flatmate who said they were both going on a 'Gay Pride' march in Edinburgh the following week. I decided to take the website details, book a train and talked my 'evangelical fiance (now wife)' into going with me. We went on the march purely to walk with the homosexual community and connect with them and experienced an acceptance that Leah commended. Since then, Kerry (an older ex-Anglican minister and mentor of mine) and I have continued to have conversations about our reservations with the evangelical 'slant' on homosexuality. Kerry is currently reading a book by a guy called Randy entitled 'Are Homosexuals My Neighbours As Well?' and I have started reading Mel White's book 'Stranger...' and we went into a Gay Bar around a month ago as we were talking through these issues.

It is as if we are re-aligning our perspectives on homosexuality and assessing why we believe what we believe. Is it because we were told what we should believe or what the Bible apparently says about such issues? We have not come to any solid conclusions but we know our journey won't leave us where we were and wherever we end up will leave us with a whole new set of challenges, like how can I relate to the homosexual community in a meaningful, ongoing nature? How can I generate authentic friendship relationships with the homosexual community?

Your friend, Ewan.

drallan
09-14-2009, 10:29 AM
Hi Ewan!

Welcome to the forum and thanks so much for sharing your story! You are an inspiration!

Wishing you a lovely and awesome week ahead!

Take care,

Allan x :)

BruceChris
09-14-2009, 11:00 AM
Your questions seem awfully formal, in nature. You do not make friends with the homosexual community, you make friends with individuals in that community.

I would recommend that you do NOT "chose to start connecting with homosexuals at the local Gay Nightclub (Out) AND share the love of Jesus", AT THE SAME TIME.

Far too many evangelicals are convinced that there is no such thing as a homosexual, only broken, and sin obsessed heterosexuals, and that these people need to be SAVED, or FIXED. If you give the impression that you are one of those, even by mentioning Jesus, they will avoid you, or worse.



EDIT: I re-read your intro. You seem to be doing something right.

Good Luck, Bruce Chris

u-dog
09-14-2009, 02:20 PM
Ewan,

Welcome to the forums. Many Christians believe that evangelism begins and ends with talking. You seem to understand that listening comes first. Continue to listen more than you talk. Seek to understand other peoples experience. Be humble and respectful. In other words, continue as you have begun. You will both make friends and influence people. Its a long path and slow.

U-dog :pray:

antiochian
09-14-2009, 05:05 PM
Welcome, Ewan, and bright blessings! I agree with the others that your introduction was very moving. The fact that you managed to reach out and connect with Patrick, and to march with a gay man and a lesbian tells me that you already are cultivating authentic friendships.

I agree with the others that you may want to tone down any preaching, and not be too pushy. Be prepared for angry or indifferent responses to your invitations to faith when you do issue them. Gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans people have been hurt, sometimes very deeply, by Christian loved ones, the church and its leaders. Be a light of love and understanding. Be open-minded, and slow to judge. Listen to their stories. Learn from them. Cry with them. Laugh with them. Speak up for them when you see them wronged. They are your brothers and sisters. You want to lead them to Christ, let them see Christ in you.

That's my best answer for you. Thanks for sharing with us. :)

tdogg
09-14-2009, 09:32 PM
Hi Ewan and welcome to the Soulforce forums!

You came to the right place to get to know an excellent group of individuals who are happy to discuss the issues. We all have our stories (coming out and otherwise) and have shared much on the forums already. I think you might be interested in reading through some of the threads to get an idea of our journeys and some of the things we are doing.

I am working with a group that puts on workshops to talk about marriage equality, relationships and civil vs. religious marriage. A lot of that centers around relationships in general, and we use an excellent DVD on that. Plus we discuss some Biblical texts regarding relationships. Some of it is specific to marriage equality but much is in general about relationships and how God feels about them.

I've been to Scotland a couple of times and love the country, though it rains a lot! Very much looking forward to returning with my wife (she's never been). I'm so glad you found us and shared your story. I hope you stick around and share more. I'm interested in hearing what you are doing and how you are doing on your life journey. How does your wife feel about all of this?

Anyways, welcome and thanks for being here! :love:

Gennee
09-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Hi Ewan and welcome to the forums. After reading your intro I see that some barriers have been broken already. I am a transgender individual who who has has seen God work in the lives of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. My desire is to witness to transgender people in word and life. Thank you for sharing your story.

Gennee
:wave::love:

Highlander
09-15-2009, 10:24 PM
Hey guys, I thank you for receiving me and assisting me in my journey. Please forgive me and bear with my formalities.

My perception of evangelism is very different to the 'traditional view' and I believe more about sharing life together than about conversion. Peter challenges us to 'be ready to give an answer for the hope we have' which implies a preceding question and a listening ear. The reason I and other Christian friends attend 'Out' is to challenge own prejudices and to connect with (individuals within) the homosexual community. Our goal is not to then proselytise, convert or fix anyone but to befriend and learn and to be the face of the evangelical church who will say 'Sorry, we have failed you!'

My father experienced the harsh hand of the evangelical church when he had a nervous breakdown and experienced leaders sitting in him, casting demons out of him. I am not about enforcing the same legalism and law. My journey is a challenging one, not least for my wife who is confused by the barriers I'm transcending and my co-leaders at church who know I went on a 'Gay Pride' march. But, the Almighty has taken me down strange paths before that have challenged my thinking and caused me to re-align my stance.

I hope I have answered the questions that were posed to me (in no apparent order). Thank you for receiving me warmly in all my vulnerability.

Pablo Rafael
09-16-2009, 05:06 PM
Hi Ewan,

I really appreciated what you had to say in your introductory post. I know about breaking down barriers. God had to break down a lot of barriers in my thinking to get me to the point I am at now, an openly gay Christian man who believes that being gay is God's choice for my life and being Christian is my greatest joy.

So much harm has been done to gay individuals at the hand of the church that it is difficult to bring the message of God's love them. At the same time it is hard to bring the message that God loves all, gay and straight, to the religious community. But only by working to break down those barriers can we show the love of God to all. Jesus spent much of his ministry connecting with those who were scorned and marginalized. He broke down the ultimate barrier, sin, that separates us from the love of God.

God's blessings in your journey, my friend.

Pablo