GODISUNIVERSAL
11-25-2012, 07:25 PM
I am a Christian who believes in the eternal salvation of ALL MEN, here to present the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ, the saviour of ALL men, and especially those who believe.
My dear friends please read and consider all that i say, and research what i say to see if it is the truth. There are many mistranslations in the bible. If we are to believe modern translations we must assume that homosexuals burn in a fire forever. It is not true, hell is not true, eternal punishment is not true. God said 'eye for eye', not 'eye for an infiinite amount of eyes'. Speaking of eyes....Try opening YOURS!
I am not here to try to win converts, i am here to present the truth humbly as i have been given it, then I will disappear as if by magic because I don't have time to 'argue' as fake Christians enjoy doing.
I believe in the salvation of ALL men as scripture teaches.
The TRUE gospel is...
Luke 2:10-17
Do nor be afraid I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all people. Today in the town of David a Saviour has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord This will be a sign to you: You wilt find a baby wrapped in strips of cloths and lying in a manger.
Great joy, and good news (gospel) is NOT believing that 95% (and more) of mankind ends up being torchered in hell forever and ever! Think about these things with me my friends.
I do not believe in eternal punishment because -
#1: IT IS NOT TRUE
#2: THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH IT
#3: IT GOES AGAINST THE CHARACTER AND NATURE OF GOD
#4: IT DECLARES THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST AS AN ABSOLUTE FAILURE
#5: THE MAJORITY OF THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS DID NOT TEACH IT
#6: THE SCRIPTURES TEACH THE SALVATION OF ALL MEN
#7: IT POINTS TO A VICTORIOUS DEVIL, AND TO SIN AS FINALLY TRIUMPHANT OVER GOD
#8: ETERNAL TORTURE IS UNJUST! THE PUNISHMENT DOES NOT FIT THE CRIME
#9: IT PRODUCES IMMATURE CONVERTS WHO ARE MOTIVATED TO SERVE GOD OUT OF FEAR RATHER THAN
LOVE
#10: THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, NOT ETERNAL TORTURE.
Also the word 'eternal' in the Bible is GROSS mistranslation and really means an aeon (in the Greek), a word which means 'age lasting' or 'age abiding'.
There is no 'hell', rather it was a made up word.
Whenever the Bible speaks of hell, it is a mistranslation and means something else altogether.
There is no hell, it is a man made belief.
There is a lake of fire which is 'age-lasting' and for remedial purposes however to cleanse sinners of sin.
Malachi 3:2 (New King James Version)
2 “ But who can endure the day of His coming?
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap.
Pagans actually added eternal torment to the Bible 500 years after Christ, the primary belief was in Universal Salvation for ALL men and was taught by Christ, the disciples, apostles and the GREATEST of the early church fathers, which anyone can research to see if what i say is true.
One day God will be all and in all as scripture clearly declares.
Remember that Gods love is greater than anyones hate, remember that God overcomes his enemies with love.
Will anyone be able to resist his purifying love in that lake of cleansing fire and brimstone?
Or surely shall all, as scipture declares finally accept Gods love and worship him as the Bible says that --
Every knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the GLORY of GOD the FATHER.
And no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the holy Spirit (1 COR 12).
Let me be very clear that there is no ETERNAL punishment.
"Now let's discover how long the 'eternity' REALLY is in many leading 'selling' English translations to those who don't believe me -
Sodom's fiery judgment is 'eternal' (Jude 7)--until--God 'will restore the fortunes of Sodom' (Eze. 16:53-55).
Israel's 'affliction is incurable' (Jer. 30:12)-until--the Lord 'will restore health' and heal her wounds (Jer. 30:17).
The sin of Samaria 'is incurable' (Mic. 1:9)-until-- Lord 'will restore ... the fortunes of Samaria.' (Ez. 16:53).
Ammon is to become a 'wasteland forever' and 'rise no more' (Zeph. 2:9, Jer. 25:27 --until--the Lord will 'restore the fortunes of the Ammonites' (Jer. 49:6).
An Ammonite or Moabite is forbidden to enter the Lord's congregation 'forever'-until--the tenth generation (Deut. 23:3).
Habakkuk tells us of mountains that were 'everlasting', that is -until-- they 'were shattered' Hab. 3 3:6).
The Aaronic Priesthood was to be an 'everlasting' priesthood (Ex. 40:15), that is-until-it was superceded by the Melchizedek Priesthood (Hebrews 7:14-18).
Many translations of the Bible inform us that God would dwell in Solomon's Temple 'forever' (1 Kings 8:13), that is,--until the Temple was destroyed.
The Law of Moses was to be an 'everlasting covenant' (Leviticus 24:8) yet we read in the New Covenant the first was 'done away' and 'abolished' (2 Corinthians 3:11,13), and God 'made the first old' (Hebrews 8:13).
The fire for Israel's sin offering (of a ram without blemish) is never to be put out. It shall be a 'perpetual'-- until-- Christ, the Lamb of God, dies for our sins. We now have a better covenant established on better promises (Lev. 6:12-13, Heb. 8:6-13).
God's waves of wrath roll over Jonah 'forever'-until--the Lord delivers him from the large fish's belly on the third day (Jonah 2:6,10; 1: 17);
Egypt and Elam will 'rise no more' (Jer. 25:27)-until--the Lord will 'restore the fortunes of Egypt' (Ez. 29:14) and 'restore the fortunes of Elam' (Jer. 49:39).
'Moab is destroyed' (Jer. 48:4, 42)-until--the Lord 'will restore the fortunes of Moab' (Jer. 48:47).
Israel's judgment lasts 'forever'-until--the Spirit is poured out and God restores it (Isa. 32:13-15).
The King James Bible, as well as many others, tells us that a bondslave was to serve his master 'forever' (Exodus 21:6), that is,--until--his death."
And so we see from above that the idea of forever, or eternal, in the bible is a gross mistranslation and really means 'for a time' or 'for an age' or similar.
Jesus was reconcilling the WORLD back to God on the cross.
The word reconcile means 'make peace' or take away the emnity between two parties (making peace).
Here is the original (Greek) definition of the word 'Reconcile'.
Word family: Reconciliation, reconcile. Synonyms: Atonement, reunion, peace, making friends of enemies Related ideas: rebellion, alienation, enmity, sacrifice. Greek References: καταλλαγη katallagee 2643 (Strong) cf 2644, 604 Definition: To be reconciled means to be made "at one" with God. Reconciliation is atonement (at-one-ment). Reconciliation means having fellowship and peace with God where once there was enmity.
Jesus also came to destroy the works of the devil and to defeat sin and death.
JOHN 12:32
(ALT) "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw [or, DRAG in the Greek] all to Myself." (AMP) And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw and ATTRACT ALL men [Gentiles as well as Jews] to Myself.
(BBE) And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, WILL "MAKE" ALL men come to me.
(CEV) If I am lifted up above the earth, I "WILL MAKE" EVERYONE "WANT TO" come to me."
(Lamsa NT) And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw "EVERY" MAN to me.
(NIrV) But I am going to be lifted up from the earth. When I am, I will "BRING ALL" PEOPLE to myself."
(MSG) And I, as I am lifted up from the earth, WILL "ATTRACT EVERYONE" and "GATHER" THEM AROUND ME."
This is not a new message my dear friends, but rather the message of the early church and of the great saints and greatest teachers of old.
Universalism was the prevailing doctrine for 500 YEARS after Christ.
I have much MUCH more to say on this topic to all who have ears to hear.
Before i go just now, remember that...
Proverbs 25:2
New International Version
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
New American Standard Bible
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Let us begin that search in truth and love.
In Jesus's name, who keeps searching until he finds the very LAST lost sheep.
My dear friends please read and consider all that i say, and research what i say to see if it is the truth. There are many mistranslations in the bible. If we are to believe modern translations we must assume that homosexuals burn in a fire forever. It is not true, hell is not true, eternal punishment is not true. God said 'eye for eye', not 'eye for an infiinite amount of eyes'. Speaking of eyes....Try opening YOURS!
I am not here to try to win converts, i am here to present the truth humbly as i have been given it, then I will disappear as if by magic because I don't have time to 'argue' as fake Christians enjoy doing.
I believe in the salvation of ALL men as scripture teaches.
The TRUE gospel is...
Luke 2:10-17
Do nor be afraid I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all people. Today in the town of David a Saviour has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord This will be a sign to you: You wilt find a baby wrapped in strips of cloths and lying in a manger.
Great joy, and good news (gospel) is NOT believing that 95% (and more) of mankind ends up being torchered in hell forever and ever! Think about these things with me my friends.
I do not believe in eternal punishment because -
#1: IT IS NOT TRUE
#2: THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH IT
#3: IT GOES AGAINST THE CHARACTER AND NATURE OF GOD
#4: IT DECLARES THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST AS AN ABSOLUTE FAILURE
#5: THE MAJORITY OF THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS DID NOT TEACH IT
#6: THE SCRIPTURES TEACH THE SALVATION OF ALL MEN
#7: IT POINTS TO A VICTORIOUS DEVIL, AND TO SIN AS FINALLY TRIUMPHANT OVER GOD
#8: ETERNAL TORTURE IS UNJUST! THE PUNISHMENT DOES NOT FIT THE CRIME
#9: IT PRODUCES IMMATURE CONVERTS WHO ARE MOTIVATED TO SERVE GOD OUT OF FEAR RATHER THAN
LOVE
#10: THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, NOT ETERNAL TORTURE.
Also the word 'eternal' in the Bible is GROSS mistranslation and really means an aeon (in the Greek), a word which means 'age lasting' or 'age abiding'.
There is no 'hell', rather it was a made up word.
Whenever the Bible speaks of hell, it is a mistranslation and means something else altogether.
There is no hell, it is a man made belief.
There is a lake of fire which is 'age-lasting' and for remedial purposes however to cleanse sinners of sin.
Malachi 3:2 (New King James Version)
2 “ But who can endure the day of His coming?
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap.
Pagans actually added eternal torment to the Bible 500 years after Christ, the primary belief was in Universal Salvation for ALL men and was taught by Christ, the disciples, apostles and the GREATEST of the early church fathers, which anyone can research to see if what i say is true.
One day God will be all and in all as scripture clearly declares.
Remember that Gods love is greater than anyones hate, remember that God overcomes his enemies with love.
Will anyone be able to resist his purifying love in that lake of cleansing fire and brimstone?
Or surely shall all, as scipture declares finally accept Gods love and worship him as the Bible says that --
Every knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the GLORY of GOD the FATHER.
And no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the holy Spirit (1 COR 12).
Let me be very clear that there is no ETERNAL punishment.
"Now let's discover how long the 'eternity' REALLY is in many leading 'selling' English translations to those who don't believe me -
Sodom's fiery judgment is 'eternal' (Jude 7)--until--God 'will restore the fortunes of Sodom' (Eze. 16:53-55).
Israel's 'affliction is incurable' (Jer. 30:12)-until--the Lord 'will restore health' and heal her wounds (Jer. 30:17).
The sin of Samaria 'is incurable' (Mic. 1:9)-until-- Lord 'will restore ... the fortunes of Samaria.' (Ez. 16:53).
Ammon is to become a 'wasteland forever' and 'rise no more' (Zeph. 2:9, Jer. 25:27 --until--the Lord will 'restore the fortunes of the Ammonites' (Jer. 49:6).
An Ammonite or Moabite is forbidden to enter the Lord's congregation 'forever'-until--the tenth generation (Deut. 23:3).
Habakkuk tells us of mountains that were 'everlasting', that is -until-- they 'were shattered' Hab. 3 3:6).
The Aaronic Priesthood was to be an 'everlasting' priesthood (Ex. 40:15), that is-until-it was superceded by the Melchizedek Priesthood (Hebrews 7:14-18).
Many translations of the Bible inform us that God would dwell in Solomon's Temple 'forever' (1 Kings 8:13), that is,--until the Temple was destroyed.
The Law of Moses was to be an 'everlasting covenant' (Leviticus 24:8) yet we read in the New Covenant the first was 'done away' and 'abolished' (2 Corinthians 3:11,13), and God 'made the first old' (Hebrews 8:13).
The fire for Israel's sin offering (of a ram without blemish) is never to be put out. It shall be a 'perpetual'-- until-- Christ, the Lamb of God, dies for our sins. We now have a better covenant established on better promises (Lev. 6:12-13, Heb. 8:6-13).
God's waves of wrath roll over Jonah 'forever'-until--the Lord delivers him from the large fish's belly on the third day (Jonah 2:6,10; 1: 17);
Egypt and Elam will 'rise no more' (Jer. 25:27)-until--the Lord will 'restore the fortunes of Egypt' (Ez. 29:14) and 'restore the fortunes of Elam' (Jer. 49:39).
'Moab is destroyed' (Jer. 48:4, 42)-until--the Lord 'will restore the fortunes of Moab' (Jer. 48:47).
Israel's judgment lasts 'forever'-until--the Spirit is poured out and God restores it (Isa. 32:13-15).
The King James Bible, as well as many others, tells us that a bondslave was to serve his master 'forever' (Exodus 21:6), that is,--until--his death."
And so we see from above that the idea of forever, or eternal, in the bible is a gross mistranslation and really means 'for a time' or 'for an age' or similar.
Jesus was reconcilling the WORLD back to God on the cross.
The word reconcile means 'make peace' or take away the emnity between two parties (making peace).
Here is the original (Greek) definition of the word 'Reconcile'.
Word family: Reconciliation, reconcile. Synonyms: Atonement, reunion, peace, making friends of enemies Related ideas: rebellion, alienation, enmity, sacrifice. Greek References: καταλλαγη katallagee 2643 (Strong) cf 2644, 604 Definition: To be reconciled means to be made "at one" with God. Reconciliation is atonement (at-one-ment). Reconciliation means having fellowship and peace with God where once there was enmity.
Jesus also came to destroy the works of the devil and to defeat sin and death.
JOHN 12:32
(ALT) "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw [or, DRAG in the Greek] all to Myself." (AMP) And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw and ATTRACT ALL men [Gentiles as well as Jews] to Myself.
(BBE) And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, WILL "MAKE" ALL men come to me.
(CEV) If I am lifted up above the earth, I "WILL MAKE" EVERYONE "WANT TO" come to me."
(Lamsa NT) And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw "EVERY" MAN to me.
(NIrV) But I am going to be lifted up from the earth. When I am, I will "BRING ALL" PEOPLE to myself."
(MSG) And I, as I am lifted up from the earth, WILL "ATTRACT EVERYONE" and "GATHER" THEM AROUND ME."
This is not a new message my dear friends, but rather the message of the early church and of the great saints and greatest teachers of old.
Universalism was the prevailing doctrine for 500 YEARS after Christ.
I have much MUCH more to say on this topic to all who have ears to hear.
Before i go just now, remember that...
Proverbs 25:2
New International Version
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
New American Standard Bible
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Let us begin that search in truth and love.
In Jesus's name, who keeps searching until he finds the very LAST lost sheep.