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NathanATX 03-21-2006 09:01 AM

Can Christians Be Gay?
 
http://www.charismamag.com/a.php?ArticleID=1174

A July 2001 article from Charisma Magazine.

NathanATX 03-21-2006 09:07 AM

I wonder how much things have changed since then?

keltic63 03-21-2006 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Marks"
"I think it's more like a disability--like someone who is dyslexic."

:lol:

I don't know why I find this comment to be so funny!
I guess it reminds me of some quote I heard about homosexuality being a sickness, and that we should all call off work: If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to work: "Hello. Can't work today, still queer." Robin Tyler


and yeah, I'd like to know if things have changed any.

Vanessa White 03-21-2006 10:29 AM

THanks, Keltic. I never heard that and laughed out loud at my desk. Thanks for the humor, I needed it. Vanessa

NathanATX 03-21-2006 10:50 AM

I wonder if I could use my sick days? :)

zephyr013 03-21-2006 11:49 AM

this quote I find interesting:

"We will always be drawn to our roots and will never be perfect this side of the cross."

Roots, as in origins, basics?... I think he, without meaning to, implies that homosexuality is the way were created. Perhaps God made us this way.

And he is 100% right that we'll never be perfect.

My struggle is not with God... my shame is not because of God, but because of the atmosphere I am a part of here. I think Christians can be homosexuals, and happy, if they can rise above the paradigms and judgments of their peers.

keltic63 03-21-2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephyr013
this quote I find interesting:

"We will always be drawn to our roots and will never be perfect this side of the cross."

Roots, as in origins, basics?... I think he, without meaning to, implies that homosexuality is the way were created. Perhaps God made us this way.

And he is 100% right that we'll never be perfect.

My struggle is not with God... my shame is not because of God, but because of the atmosphere I am a part of here. I think Christians can be homosexuals, and happy, if they can rise above the paradigms and judgments of their peers.

Yes, I caught that too. If you get them to talk long enough, they do say the very things that they believe to be true.

Lydia 03-21-2006 12:34 PM

From the article:

"I believe sexual orientation is a learned behavior and can be unlearned."

I wonder if they believe that heterosexuality is also a learned behavior? I got the impression that when he said "sexual orientation," he was really only referring to non-heterosexuals.

tdogg 03-21-2006 12:42 PM

Thanks!
 
Thanks for that Keltic - got my laugh for the day!!

Maybe we should try a 'sick out' and all call in sick across the nation. Have you ever seen the movie, A Day Without a Mexican. All the Mexicans in California vanished and the state nearly shut down. We could have a "Day Without a Gay" - it would definitely be a wakeup call especially if the GLBT people didn't have a choice to disappear.

Just a thought, and I'll keep chuckling over this one all day!

tdogg 03-21-2006 12:43 PM

Welll..
 
Technically it might not include all B and T's, but G & Ls for sure - but you get my gist..

NathanATX 03-21-2006 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lydia
From the article:

"I believe sexual orientation is a learned behavior and can be unlearned."

I wonder if they believe that heterosexuality is also a learned behavior? I got the impression that when he said "sexual orientation," he was really only referring to non-heterosexuals.

I love your quote by Lyn Lavner!

Lydia 03-22-2006 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanATX
I love your quote by Lyn Lavner!

Thanks.

I found it in a book of quotes at Indigo, of all places.

pnggrad79 03-27-2006 08:34 PM

Of course Christians can be gay!!!!!
 
I am a Christian and I am gay. There is no doubt in my mind that I am a Christian. There is also no doubt in my mind that I am a lesbian.

Now my two homophobic sisters are praying that I will reconcile with my ex husband because they say it is not God's will for me to live in this decadent lifestyle. However, they don't involve themselves in my life to know one way or the other if God's will is being accomplished in my life or not. Moreover, my wife and I are not allowed in their houses or around their children as if you can "catch" my lesbianism. Oh my gosh! Can we be more melodramatic? One of my sisters slept with me from age 4 until we were 16. She is not a lesbian and I am. Hmmm! Do ya think I caught it and just hung onto it? Please!!!

Yes Christians can be gay. :rolleyes:

NonLemming 03-27-2006 09:37 PM

Judging by the number of gay Christians I know, I'd say "Yes, there certainly can be, and there ARE". Can there be left-handed people who are not witches>? Of course. I'm not sure I understand the root of the question. Lots of combinations exist in this world. Some of those combinations seem to blow some people's minds. Why is that? Should we always go to the lowest common denominator to set standards of what is possible? I think not. But that's just me.

Mia14 04-04-2006 12:09 AM

Great idea!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tdogg
Maybe we should try a 'sick out' and all call in sick across the nation. Have you ever seen the movie, A Day Without a Mexican. All the Mexicans in California vanished and the state nearly shut down. We could have a "Day Without a Gay"

Wow, that would be awesome!!! It's really catchy, too. The only hangup I see is that some people, especially in states like mine where discrimination based on sexuality isn't illegal, would probably face major consequences at work. I'm blessed to be in a job right now that supports me and the fact that I'm gay.

pnggrad79 04-04-2006 08:26 AM

Lol!
 
keltic that was great! Let's go farther with it.

Scenario-(Thanksgiving Day) "Uh Mom? Sorry, I can't come to Thanksgiving dinner because I woke up today and I am still feeling a little lesbian. Can't seem to quite shake it."
OMG that was too funny!:)

keltic63 04-04-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnggrad79
keltic that was great! Let's go farther with it.

Scenario-(Thanksgiving Day) "Uh Mom? Sorry, I can't come to Thanksgiving dinner because I woke up today and I am still feeling a little lesbian. Can't seem to quite shake it."
OMG that was too funny!:)



:eek: OMG, the innuendo in that!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Daniel 04-04-2006 10:48 PM

Can Christians Be Gay Link
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanATX
http://www.charismamag.com/a.php?ArticleID=1174

A July 2001 article from Charisma Magazine.

Couldn't get to the article with that address. I believe this is the correct one now. Did they change it recently?

http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=1174

Nathan, you wondered if things have changed much since the article was written. Yes, I think so. Gay christians are way more involved than they were then.

It's interesting that other articles advise readers to avoid hate language and stereotypes. In essence, they seem to be trying to look nice while holding the same views. This is telling.

awediot 04-05-2006 12:44 AM

As a fag, I am often seen as sick, immoral, confused and a target. But as a Christian, I am seen as worse... Which do you think concerns God the most?

pnggrad79 04-05-2006 01:45 PM

Let me clear it up
 
When I said, "feeling a little lesbian" I meant I was actually feeling lesbian, not feeling a lesbian. Big difference!!! I know what you mean, though. Didn't mean to include innuendo in my post. Sorry!:rolleyes:


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