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Old 10-03-2006, 10:21 AM
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Society believes that? So that's why they have life without parole huh? I think you have your facts down incorrectly about what society believes.

I do not believe serial killers are curable.
Allow me to rephrase that. Christian society in this country believes in redemption. They do not believe anyone is beyond saving. They still do make up the majority don't they? Now I readily agree with you that the laws do not always reflect these beliefs, but the death penalty and war don't in my mind reflect Christian beliefs either, but yet we have them.

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Where did I say it was curable or anything of the sort? If anything, it isn't and those who commit such acts should be sent to jail. That's as simple as it'll get.
I was merely drawing a distinction between a behavior that can be corrected by learning a new behavior, and something that may be biological and can't be reprogrammed.

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I'm not going to debate the merits of pedophilia, and I will not give it any time of the day. I have no sympathy for those who commit the acts and I feel they should be punished to the maximum extent of the law.

Why the heck should we ask them in the first place? Those questions are totally ridiculous in my mind. We cannot be grouped with child molesters. Pedophilia is not curable, and it is a criminal behavior.
Because when you stop asking questions, things just stay as they are. This seems to me to be a systemic problem within our society,(teachers,priest,neighbors,etc). Sure we can just wait until after they've committed an act, and put them in jail and throw away the key, but won't there be another to take their place. Does this really fix anything.

Criminal penalties(inprisionment, death penalty) in our society are not meant to resolve criminal problems within society. They are a means of retribution, and satisfying high emotions. Making us feel better about ourselves because "we've fixed the criminal problem" or "they are getting what they deserve" but yet they still exist. Crime can only really be resolved through both economic and social reform, but that raises too many questions so lets just throw them in jail and be done with it. But are we ever done with it?

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And just because I hold these opinions I am less capable of being objective than you are? Really? Says who?
I know I used your quote to start off my post, it was really just a jumping point for what I wanted to express. I was really addressing everyone and everything in my post was NOT meant to be directed at you personally. I'm sorry if this is the impression you got.


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