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Old 01-30-2006, 10:30 PM
Joe Brummer Joe Brummer is offline
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Originally Posted by cjb
Paul was alive at the death of Jesus. However, he was a pharisee who persecuted the Christians.

Paul's Timeline:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/paul/timeline.html
Sorry, All the evidence I have ever seen says that Paul lived many years after the death of Christ. This one site you have found isn't exactly unbaised. Do you have something less biased?
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Originally Posted by cjb
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

It's quite apparent to me...Jesus said with his own words....the Holy Spirit would be sent. So I don't have a problem with Jesus teaching through Paul.

[OLD TESTAMENT evidence that Jesus existed before his birth]


[OLD TESTAMENT] Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

[NEW TESTAMENT] John 8:56-58 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

So it's obvious...God/Jesus Christ are the same. So whatever God said in the Old Testament is the same as Jesus saying it.

This is nice, but it isn't what we were discussing, so I am a bit lossed here. I though you were going to show me what Christ had to say about men being effeminte. That was your earlier claim. Now you have moved on to something else but that isn't what we were discussing. Can you show me what Christ said about men being effeminite? What did Christ say?

You have posted a load of quotes from the bible about Christ and the father being one, but that wasn't what I asked you to present. I am sorry you went through all the trouble to put that together, but can you present me with that which you claim you can do?
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