pnggrad: it looks like we're on the same page! I have this discussion with my dad occasionally (a pentecostal fundie, but not without his redeeming qualities) and he always uses the analogy of "dying in the arms of a harlot." That always makes me laugh! His point is that if someone accepts Jesus, they are obligated to "sin no more" and any sin that they commit would remove them from the state of grace. He has heard "Grace" preachers say that a child of God could be with a prostitute, have a heart attack and die, and still go to heaven, eventhough he was in the midst of a sinful act. I maintain that the salvation comes by God's grace, and according to Paul we work out that salvation on a daily basis. To me that means I'm going to sin, willfully or unwillfully, but God's grace is sufficient to cover my sin. My salvation lies in the act of recognizing God's grace in the act of sending Jesus to be our Christ.
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