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Originally Posted by Spoticus
I think you guys are shooting a little wide. I was trying ask a very precise question, and was hoping for a precise answer.
"Homosexual orientation is naturally occurring thus homosexual sex is no better or worse than heterosexual sex"
My question is. How does on justify the "thus" in that statement. What is the bridge between "This desire is naturally occurring" and "These actions are good."
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Sorry if my earlier post went down a track that didn't address your concern.
Right now it seems that you have a quandry that exists in the abstract, that is, on the mental level. Not everyone deals with this matter in that way. A great many people come into an 'understanding' of the 'thusness' of then matter after acting on their same-sex desire, that is, by experience- by contrast to thoughts in the head. I say this not to encourage you to go out and sex, but merely to point that there is more that one way to 'understand' something.
I thought, as you do now, that I wanted ot be celebate for the rest of my life. And I wasn't until I was about 25 before I acted on my same-sex attraction.
Something comes to mind here- if it makes no sense feel free to ignore it:
Years ago, I studied the teachings of the Desert Fathers (1st century monastics) which are extant in Orthodox Church to this day. There is one meditative-prayer practice that they teach, and
it is about getting the head into the heart. In other words, they encourage the monastic to get out of their mental chatter and get heart centered. I found this to be a very helpful practice. Some call it the "Jesus Prayer". Now- as I gay person of faith- I would like to point out that the heart is midway between the head and the groin. To make a pun- I believe we need to cultivate a deeper understanding in matters of sexuality by get to the heart of it.
By this practice did I here a voice that said:" Hello. This is God talking. Thought you'd like to know- It's OK to be gay"
No.
But I was able to sort through my feelings and my thoughts.
"The kingdom of God is within you."