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Old 04-07-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Venari
This raises a question for me; why gender inclusiveness of God. I can see value in removing a stumbling block for someone who may take issue with the Patriarchy. But when it comes down to it God is reveled to us in the masculine, so I take issues with how some churches change the texts to remove any "male terms." I guess one thing that bothered me is I was guest speaking at an MCC church and I said "kingdom” and I had a group of people get all upset that I was imposing male superiority... well in the Greek the word is "basileia" which literally means kingdom with no other possible meaning, in the context, I also pointed out and kingdoms are ruled by Queens ... no puns intended

-Venari
Wow Venari! We have found something we can agree upon! Like you I have some trouble with some churches that require gender inclusive language to be used at all times in songs, prayers, preaching, etc. I have no problem hearing inclusive language, but I do not like to be required to use it. In interfaith settings I personally always use inclusive language, but in Christian settings I do not. Bible versions that translate using inclusive language when there is no clear gender reference in the original text is great, but I do have a problem when all reference to gender is removed when the original text suggests specific gender.

I hope this discussion on gender inclusive language does not over take this thread. If that begins to happen we may need to create a new thread.

On another not just. Just a matter of clarification, hellenization most accurately refers to Greek domination and infusion of Greek culture rather then Roman. Although the Roman Empire did continue the hellenization process. See additional info at www.thehistoryguide.org
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