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Old 04-12-2006, 04:09 PM
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Default Gobble Dey Gook Redux



Dear Z and A:

Thank you for your responses. All I wrote were questions, not opinions. Most sentences ended with a question mark (?). I do not comment upon your own definitions of what produces a " YOU " or your positive or negative image of a "Christian". I wanted to know what YOU THINK, FEEL AND SAY.

Christianity, not unlike the human race, including the LGBT community, is not a monolithic borg. There are both positive and negative images and realities of men and women who call themselves part of the community. There are thousands upon thousands of denominations in the United States and Canada alone. Persons joined one over another because along with emotion, individuals exercise reason and yes, their faith in that choice.

Z......I get it. You say that "all division is divisive", and A agrees to some point with you. Yet human existence is about choices that divide as well as unite. And as A proves, sometimes, dear Zerbie, some persons, like Awediot, accept what you say....." to some extent"

A.......I asked the question whether " gay affirming " was one encompassing definition. The United Church of Christ advertisement is a case in point. I think all their ads are brilliant. LOGO/VIACOM said no while a conservative station like HALLMARK said yes ?????

What is meant by " gay affirming "???? Are you suggesting that it means a total repudiation of all theology and catechism that condemns homosexuality and opposes sacramental marriage? Do some churches say that they love you, want you to sit and become part of the church family, but on a second-tier membership? Again, I ask what I initially asked?????


Some Christian denominations, like MCC, who alone changed the reality in Canada with their first legal marriages, and the United Church of Canada are perfect "10's" on the scale, while Anglicans in Canada, as usual, are divided and non-committal and the Roman Catholics, Assemblies of God, and the theocons are opposed and have used their considerable economic resources and political capital to wage a "crusade" against us.

So, that is what I meant so far. I accept the way that you express yourselves and wish only that you accept mine.


Well, I that you do.
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