I have just bumped 2 older threads up to the top of the page because we've had some previous conversations along the lines of what you just asked. While I'm open to a more current talk about the same things, I thought the older threads would also bring you up to speed on what transpired here before you joined us. Maybe a launch pad for a new conversation. As of this moment, those 2 new threads are right up at the top of the page . . .can't say how long they'll stay there! They have titles along the lines of, Blah blah blah Dominionism, and something or other Bush and compassion. Happy reading.