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Originally Posted by emproph
It requires violence to continually decide to be nonviolent.
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Emproph, (don't thank me yet...) I've a feeling you and I are very much alike. (I flatter myself
) The criticism you invited in another thread (and the resulting suggestion you simplify your thoughts, {
know that one well}) is what is behind the ensuing thrashing
... I love irony, the paradoxical, catch-22s and the oxymoronic. I find great truths surrounding them, but not within them. The limits of thought they expose and the process we take to arrive at them is revealing and clarifying because the end is so extreme and taken to the absurd. But please do not stop there. Exposing inherent self-contradiction is a pleasurable and enlightening excercise in contemplation, but it is devastating if it doesn't move us further. One can brilliantly, provocatively justify the fog that traps us on the fence, convincing us that it Itself is the answer as either side is equal and necessary for the other's existance... I think It is one thing to arrive at the parenthetical, getting yourself out of it is another...
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Originally Posted by emproph
Relentless pursuit of God requires the relentless pursuit of relentlessness FIRST. It’s two decisions. For God to be the most important thing in our lives, relentlessness must be more important.
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I myself do not want to persue God relentlessly. (I save relentless for breathing, heart beating, that sort of thing) Consistently and daily is plenty for me. That keeps Him FIRST, not the persuit.
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Originally Posted by Daniel
I'm not trying to be disagreeable...
...when the mind achieves a certain equalibrium and everything is seen for what it is without judgement.
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We write these often with the intent to be disagreed with. ( I do anyhoo)I've yet to see unconstructive insult or just meaness anywhere on this site. With love, tear it up...
Then make it better.
Does this transcendence of judgement result from pure knowledge that an act (say: stealing out of hunger) is just
SO clear cut, bad or good or (neutralized) we no longer need weigh the circumstances and consequences and call, lable (
judge) it as such? Or do these very convoluted circumstances themselves overwhelm and consume the right, or duty, we have to judge at all, eliminating the need to question?
Hot button issue for me: The
"who are you to judge?" conversation killer is a wicked pop culture answer that stops timid prophets in thier tracks, and allows all sorts of cruelty to flourish. My response tends to fall in the "well who are you to abandon the responsibility to judge right from wrong? (
action, not Souls)." Where does such equilibrium lie in this paradox?
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Originally Posted by Zerbie
What if it isn't the desire to end suffering that tips one over the edge, but the practice itself? Or does desire annihilate itself?
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Don't think your off the hook Zerbie. But ya are.
I agree. Everyone and thier other wants to end sufferring. Big Deal. It is in acting on it, putting it into practice where all this begins to matter...(I like your last paragraph. I think... {Emproph is an odd mentor though, hee he}
) I think desire may satisfy itself, or get bored and move on. Annihilate is what it often does to the very thing it wanted, once it realizes its not as fulfilling as it thought.
