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Old 12-07-2007, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by u-dog View Post
(ignorant papist!)
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

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I can only assume that Pablo's Roman Catholic experience is richer because of his association with my Calvinist heresies.

God uses our differences to strengthen the TRUE SPIRITUAL CHURCH for his/her purposes. The spiritual unity of the True Church is a reality-- it is the wheat that God is cultivating. All the political crap that is frustrating you right now is just normal human bullshit. It's the chaff that the wind of the Spirit will blow away in the fullness of time.
It is against my principles to say anything good about Calvinists and their protestant heresies. But here I go... Indeed my spirituality has been very much enriched by the people here on the forums. (even the Calvinists with their protestant heresies. Dave, do you have some direct connection with the Holy Spirit. I really hate to admit it, but you are an inspiriation.)

In my early year I was very dogmatic. I thought that I could figure God out. The doctrines of the Lutheran Church were the only correct way to understand the workings of God. But as I have associated with others, I have come to understand that God is much greater than any set of human written doctrines; we can understand God only in part. I believe that he works through many different ways through many different people. (Even Calvinists and Catholics!)



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Originally Posted by nmwolfboy View Post
Sheesh, Pablo and u-dog. You guys get up at 'Ye-God' o'clock just like i do.
I don't know what you mean, Scott. I get up during the prime of the day.

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Jesus never said "establish churches in my name which use your own ideas to define dogma/doctrine and then subsequently squabble about who has the better claim of ownership of their piece of God". That realization and the experience of seeing individual people of faith, like those here at SF, regardless of the tradition they follow, coming together and creating 'church' brings joy to my heart.
If God can be described and defined by a set of doctrines, he is a small God indeed. We are saved by the grace of God, not by what we know. No one is saved by "being right".

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