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Old 12-21-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Algren View Post
100% unadulterated nonsense. Let's look at just a few bits of it.
Nonsense, is not usually how one chooses to respectfully disagree with another individual's feelings.

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Let's stop right there. I'm not demonizing Rick Warren because he's done something I disagree with. I'm putting the bald facts out in the open: He's a homophobic bigot who thinks we shouldn't have rights, or more to the point, that we shouldn't exist. He runs an ex-gay group through his church. He's compared me to incestuous pedophiles IN THE LAST WEEK. He's compared love between man and man or woman and woman to immature slutting around. He tells the lie that marriage has had a static definition for 5,000 years and that Prop 8 (or others like it) would take away his freedom of speech.

This is not demonization. These are facts. And no amount of political spin makes them anything less than what they are: Evil.
We're all given to hyperbole every once in a while. It's okay.

Telling facts and standing up to the schoolyard bully is NOT throwing a temper tantrum. It's what people in civilized countries are supposed to do.
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Oh, come on. Good can come of bad decisions, but let's not put lipstick on a pig.
Again, why do you insist that this is a bad decision. We don't actually know that yet.

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There should never be room for bigotry in church, no matter the faith.
...but it is more than likely that there always will be. The church seems to be the home of bigotry.

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Yes. He. Is.

Rick Warren is not a victim. He is an aggressor.
That right there is the opinion that always bring you down. Desiding that he is a bad person who cannot changes, gives you no room to grow. If you had been raised the way he was, you could have been him. He suffers from misinformation.

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Trying to appease your oppressors is not new or experimental. It's the oldest defense mechanism in the book. It doesn't work.
That's where you're wrong. Loving your neighbor does work.

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Show me. Link me to those threads. Thanks.
I'm honestly not going to go searching for those threads, but I have seen it happen. If you do not remember this or believe me, that is fine.

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He's asking a homophobic bigot to pray for the nation. Under no circumstances is this acceptable. As a religious person, the idea is offensive.
The diversity of this nation means that it happens everyday.

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Woah. Wait a minute. We're not the ones letting someone down. We're not the ones giving a bigot a microphone.
We are letting someone down. He'll be expecting it and like any strong person, he'll hide it. However, he can't not be disappointed to see that this example of diversity is being rejected.


When all is said and done the following quote by Martin Luther King Jr. still applies:
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”
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