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Old 05-22-2006, 06:30 PM
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Nate,
Read the script. Don't get I'm golden from it, and found the couple preceding it, Jer. 29:8,9 - 8~ For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither harken to your dreams which which ye cause to be dreamed. 9~ For they prophecy falsley unto you in my name. I have not sent them saith the Lord. to be rather distracting. Wouldn't think the Bible would be a good source for feeling perfect or loved just as we are.

I am plenty familiar with Spong and Fox. Googled a bit on Lucado and I would need to do more, but doubt he wouldn't get along real well with the other two.

I don't see how you believe that simply because God made me, and left His mark, that makes me perfect. He also made in me the will to de-perfect myself, not just my actions, and a big world to do it in. Whatever His presence remains in my being, that is the only perfect part, supporting and purifying the imperfection that is my being, by default and His grace. You basically said the same yourself.

Perhaps God sees us much like we should see each other, or better, how we see children. Lovable, corruptible, improvable, immature, self-centered and redeemable... The day he see me as perfect is the day He is done with me. And I often see those who think they are perfect and above reproach, causing the most damage. Whatever religion they use to get there.

Yes, God Loves me as I am, and sees plenty of room for improvement. The amount of presence I allow Him in my life is up to me. The day I think I'm perfect, is conversely the day I am done with Him... The day I think I am Him... and I have yet to see this actually make anyone act more like Him. It doesn't seem to work from the inside out.
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