Originally Posted by nmwolfboy
i didn't say that i disbelieved that Christ is the Savior, only with the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, specifically the idea of penal substitution.
Christus Victor, from Theopedia:
These might seem like really tiny theological differences, but i see them as increasingly divergent. The Eastern Orthodox Church still maintains a ransom/Christus Victor stance, though the Western church relegated it into the background around the time of the great East/West Schism.
On the 23d I thanked nmwolfboy for his lesson in theology. Like any good chemist, I went off to do research. I found something I think others might appreciate. Be patient, it is long, but it is interesting teaching. Take a look at:
and follow the several sections of the website. I've read that Derek Flood, the author, it thinking about publishing this material as a small book. See if you don't think we should encourage him to do so.