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Originally Posted by tymejumper

To rebutt:
Another child grabbing a cookie form his or her sibling does not costitute violence that is forbidden. This is simply a child in his innocence acting like a child. Lying, also is something that children do, however, if they do not have fear of getting in trouble unfairly for a childish indescretion, then they have no reason to lie do they. People lie to protect themselves. Children lie because they know something is wrong and they are giving a last ditch effort to perserve themselves. This of course proves that we are not so far removed from animals, however, it bears keeping in mind that we parents have to make it known that lying will not get them out of trouble but into deeper trouble.

The actual violence in all the above acts revolve around the fact that a parent should correct their child when they do lie or take a cookie from someone smaller than themselves. That way they learn that it is incorrect behavior. The parent who does not correct these actions is the one that is guilty then and bears the stain of violence that is forbidden.

True enough... For me the question is just when are we correctly disciplining our kids, and when are we squishing their little spirits in bad ways...

Adults who have been taught better and are not mentally handicapped, that harm children for their own self gradification, or to gain from their loss of innocence are monsters. Period.

Monsterous human beings, yes.