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Old 10-15-2009, 09:42 AM
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so the gay population introduced the disease but do we know how the disease began? i guess what i want to know is if two guys have sex..and neither one of them has aids or hiv..then can they get the disease (this is without a condom of course). i could be wrong but it sounds like aids got started with two men having sex anally..but i could be wrong. i just want to know as much as possible you know.
Maybe you misunderstood me, Gay men do not get the disease merely by having sex. the disease is spread in semen, breastmilk(women), blood, vaginal and anal secretions. babies can also be born with it, because the virus can cross the placental barrier. positive mothers who get on antivirals can reduece the chance of spreading it to their children if it caught early enough. and a c-section also reduces the risk for the child of contracting it.

The disease it self could not show symptoms for years and some may not know they have it until they start showing symptoms. so by having unprotected sex you are putting your self at great risk. The disease is believed to have come from the bush meat trade in Africa.(eating local animals because you have nothing else, and sometims chimps were on the menu) some chimpanzees are infected with a similar virus called SIV(simian immodefieciency virus) during the butching process a persons hands would become nicked and other small cuts, mixing the chimps blood. over time the virus could have made the jump to humans with enough exposure, considering we are two percent diffent from chimps.

also other things like not knowing how the virus was spread or even it existed when vaccines in the 1930's for disease like polio and the like were given in africa, some times the same needle was used again and again thus making a few people infected, hundreds of people infected.

The virus was found first in america in a gay man in 1981, and since then it has been called a gay disease in error. Gay people are not the progeneters of this disease. this is the best theory of the origin of the virus that has been offered to date.

So, no the virus did not originate because two men had sex, nor is it god's punishment, it is evolution. The virus evolved and gained access to a new species. and it is passed through a behavior that is hardwired into our genes, gay or not. and since we are animals capable of changing our behavior through learing, we can incorperate safe sex practices in to that behavior, getting regular testing, wearing a condom, talking to your sexual partner about condoms and caring about your self enough to use them.

Also for more info got the cdc.gov web site
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