Originally Posted by Daniel
Happy? Most of these men are thinking about getting it on with guys and are still attracted to men. Even the ex-gay people say this now. Their 'happiness', if you can call if that, is about not acting gay- having gay sex.
Because ex-gay folks are fixated on gender roles. In their world, real men don't do certain things. Their world is about conformity, not freedom to be who you are.
No. It's doesn't mean that people are not meant to be gay. The ex-gay world is one where those who have same-sex desires are seen as defective straight persons. Reparative therapy is for people who are coerced into it by religious conservatives.
Now you are on to something. Yes. I would agree. The ex-gay movement is about CONTROL and making people adhere to strict notions regarding male & female gender roles.
No one caused me to be gay. And I hardly think that your interest in sex as a kid is deserving of a scarlet letter. I was noticing and fooling around with boys at a young age too. This isn't a matter or being straight or gay btw. Kids are interesting in sex when the hormones start doing their thing. And boys- in particular- can be involved in same-sex activity, that is, masturbating together etc.
You might go read Kinsey. It's very informative re same-sex activity.
Yes Kinsey(as well a others) is primarily were I observed my research from. and that is the point I was giving you about the fluidity of sexuality. As for me point were I said some people are not meant to be gay, I was trying to explain even through gruesome experiences such as rape by the same-sex and person could still turn out to be straight. Therefor the rape only confused them for a certain time but they soon realized that those feelings were not coinciding with their own sexual orientation. Some rape victims realize this on their own while others seek therapy. But in no way at all does it make them homosexual. This research is intense, both sides have strong opinions.