I'm not denying the existence of oppression of gay people. What I'm denying is the application of Marxist theory to this, since the oppressors are not a social class, and I think that it is potentially oppressive to consider gays (the oppressed) as a social class as well.
I'm all for communal living. I'm a Christian, and Christianity started as a communist lifestyle as evidenced by its own Scriptures:
"Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. "(Acts 2:44-45) Communal life is more than just a "nice idea", its actually an imperative in my Faith (Eastern Orthodox Christian). Our central act of worship is "Holy Communion"- which in my Church is a commonly shared Sacrificial Meal eaten from a commonly shared Spoon. So if our central act of worship is to all eat from one spoon, this should be the benchmark of how we live our lives with others. I'm not afraid of communism in the least! In fact, I encourage it! But I don't think that class conflict is essential to communism. In other words, Marxism and Communism are not the same thing nor are they interchangeable terms.
I have to disagree though, that violence, or to "tear down the oppressor" is a good option. I think that if we see any form of violence as being a moral good, it just makes us oppressors. I can see the need for self-defence, and sometimes violence is needed here (as in a nation defending itself against direct attack), but I think such self-defensive violence is the lesser of moral evils rather than being morally good. Violence, even self-defensive violence, can never be "morally just" in my opinion; it can only be "less morally evil" than the evil perpetrated by a violent attack which requires the self-defence. I work with the mentally ill, and when someone is floridly psychotic, they can't be "reasoned" with. I can try to de-escalate them if they are escalating towards aggression, but sometimes I've had to restrain them physically and force them to take sedation by injection. Physically and chemically restraining someone can never be "good", but the outcome for everyone including the mentally ill person is "less bad" than if they were to harm themselves or someone else in their psychosis. Sometimes I have stood there and let the psychotic person abuse the hell out of me, spit at me, threaten me, and even hit me on several occasions (as there was no other option), and either they have realised on some level what they have done and stopped, or they have worn themselves out and stopped. So I know from personal experience that non-violence does work even in a violent crisis. But I think one has to be well trained at it.
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