What exactly is violence?

[revtj]

Dear Friends,

I am copying below a piece I have worked on for over 10 years based in my educational, therapeutic and spiritual experience. I will be using it tomorrow in introducing Soulforce to a religious group in Atlanta. I covet your comments, critiques, questions. revtj


"Violence is defined as any thought, word, action, economic or
political structure that predisposes or exposes an individual or group to
danger, ill-health or suffering, in opposition to the dictates of conscience
and free will. Hence, violence opposes the designs of the Creator, who has
created us for blessedness. Biblically speaking, violence is extreme un-neighborliness." ~JoAnne M. Terrell, professor of Theology, Ethics and Culture, Chicago Theological Seminary.


10 Beliefs that have transformed me & my understanding of violence


1. I freely admit I was affected by abusive (i.e. violent) behavior. I resist denial wherever it may arise.

2. I resist and eventually choose to renounce victim-hood. I was a victim but I am not a victim now.

3. I have learned from my past that neither abuse nor complicity with abuse is ever acceptable.

4. I refuse to advance any view which says I deserved abuse or that God willed it.

5. I live in a world where abuse is routinely tolerated, ignored, and justified.

6. It is actually easier to live in a world that rejects violence but this cannot happen until we understand its destructive effects on human living as it manifests physically, mentally, spiritually, economically and institutionally, and discover how it is to be transformed.

7. I do not have to pay anyone money to heal. All I have to pay to heal is attention.

8. I know that if I speak up it may be costly.

9. This is about evolution: physical, mental, spiritual, economic and institutional; therefore, it is a process: the first element of which is conversation.

10. I resolve to speak peacefully and persuasively in opposing violence wherever I see it.

© Rev. T. J. McGiffert, 2006

[Zerbie]

Well I didn't wanna comment and throw something new at you too soon before your talk tomorrow, since you obviously have a good plan. But I will be interested to hear how it goes, and to read more about how you came to those points you have listed. If you are open to sharing? Like how you are relating these topics that seem to be about abuse (in one's personal life?) to the work of Soulforce. Let us know how it goes.

[revtj]

Thanks Zerbie.

I didn't use the 10 points in the presentation today. You're correct in that they were more about a personal experience of violence. I realized that at the 10th hour.

However, I did use the definition of violence by Rev. Dr. Terrell. I pointed out that we seem to be living in a time where we have lost our notion of what violence is, and I offered this definition as a springboard into talking about satyagraha, non-violence, Gandhi, King, & Mel White. My logic was that until we are sure for ourselves what violence is, we cannot fully or realistically commit to non-violence.

I ended the presentation with the story Jesse Jackson told about King feeling utterly defeated the night before his death and his depressed notion that non-violence wasn't going to work. Then I asked them, "Why bother?" That was very provocative and got them talking enthusiastically about the need for education & action. We had 3 new sign-ups so that is a success.

So, I am still interested to hear reactions to the definition of violence in the previous post.

peace,
revtj

[revtj]

What is Violence?

Given the following real-life scenarios, which of these circumstances represents violence to you? This exercise is not meant to produce right or wrong answers but to stimulate a deeper consideration of how violence is enscribed into cultural norms.

1. A senator addresses the governing body of the nation and proclaims that having six months salary in a savings account is a basic rule of personal finance. He therefore concludes that victims of a hurricane who could not afford to relocate deserved what happened to them.

2. A parent is walking on the sidewalks of a busy city street with a 3 year old child when they come to an intersection where they will cross the street. The child jumps off the curb and is about to proceed in front of traffic when the parent seizes the child, yanks him back beside her, and slaps the child, frantically explaining how to safely cross the street.

3. Homer Simpson chokes his son Bart while the boys’ tongue protrudes and wiggles comically.

4. A surviving family member addresses a convicted killer and says, “I hope your rot in hell. I hope you are raped in prison.”

5. A speeding car passes you at more than twice the speed limit on the highway. You honk and curse.

6. A preacher tells the kindergarten Sunday School class, “There is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood.”

7. A world leader announces in a major speech during a time of war, “You are either for us or against us.”

8. A surgeon splits open the chest of a patient with a saw and, using a scalpel and other instruments, performs a successful heart transplant adding 20 years to the patient’s life.

9. An infant is born with serious defects to a poor couple. Although there are extraordinary surgeries and other treatments which have saved the lives of infants born with similar conditions, this family has no insurance. The hospital wraps the baby in a blanket, calls the chaplain, and allows the mother to hold the baby while it slowly passes away.

10. A dementia patient is admitted to a psych ward. The patient is unruly and uncooperative with staff. The patient is heavily medicated and strapped to a chair.

[Vanessa White]

You know, I came back to this thread because I just finished looking at some of the media coverage for the upcoming Soulforce Freedom Ride, and I was reading the exerpts from the Lynchburg, VA, paper, and the responses by readers of the article/event. I came back to this thread, because some of the comments posted by those that read the article would definitely be considered violence in my mind. I am wondering as I remember what was on your list, that violence can be a physical or verbal act in and of itself (like a parent that pulls a child from the street or a surgeon cutting open a person) without consideration of the intent of the violence. If the intent is ill-willed (?) then does that then increase the intensity of the violence? I am not sure what I think about that, because the surgery you listed in and of itself is a violent act, but yet with the best of intentions. I am thinking of the violence of the act of Christ's whipping, dragging a cross and then being nailed to it for hours- if God made that to be that way for Jesus out of the best of intentions, does that make the violence of it justified? I have always thought especially since seeing the visual depiction in the Passion of the Christ, that the violence of it is so hard to think about and bear, but God's intent was for Christ to then rise from the dead to be there for us all- it happened for us. The verbal violence in the Lynchburg paper- although not limited to Lynchburg I know- is so disheartening to me, because the words hurt, and it goes beyond someone believing different from you and me- these persons want to hurt others with their words of violence. These people could just express their frustration without making derogatory comments and disrespect. Rev. Fred Phelps is committing violence every time he visits a funeral, now he and his followers are visiting soldiers funerals, rejoicing every time a soldier is "blown to bits" he said on CNN. Because his country condones homosexuality. Again, that feels like violence with malicious, vicious intent. Does any of this make sense? Let me know your thoughts or anyone else out there. Peace, Vanessa

[Joe Brummer]

I would love to print some of this out and bring it to my TOT class on non-violence. WOuld you let me do that?

You could email the stuff and I could print it out for discussions. We have already had a bunch of discussions on what is violence but this would good stuff for us to talk about in class. Let me know.

[awediot]

I re-read your first definition of violence from Joanne Terell, and the abstract ..."in opposition to the dictates of conscience and freewill.", insists on interpretation and opens the ends to meaninglessness. But that aside, with ANY thought that exposes anyone to danger considered violent, my mental list of offenders flip-flops, and I can't think of a way to NOT merely expose to danger.Every thought lead to Every toy, utencil, buliding, marshmallow, mountain, grain of sand and fingernail has an inherent risk to cause danger... No offense, but it so broadens the definition as to not only include itself, the sharp paper its written on and the God that made the material for both...

[revtj]

I understand your point but can't anything be stretched to absudity? In the rules of logic, the fallacy is called Reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to the absurd")

I see Terrell's expansive definition in the same way I see Jesus' definition of adultery as being equal to lust in your heart. This is different from reducing it to absurdity in that Jesus is exposing the heart's motives, the secret agenda that only God sees.

Consistent with Jesus & Buddha, we are called to love our enemies & pray for those who abuse us. An expanded definition of violence is meant to transform our own consciousness of our propensity to be violent when we feel attacked or angry. In the face of our own human-ness, a biblical understanding of violence challenges not just our physical reactions but also our thoughts, and our secret world so that we may truly follow Jesus' way.

[awediot]

Unfortunately these days I see too much being stretched to (a meaningless) absurdity. Some words will never spring back and where we go from UltraMegaSupratacular Miracle vacuum bags with New Babe Attractor inserts is anyones guess.

I can appreciate the effort to deter people from allowing destructive and lustful thoughts to flourish. They desensitize, take root and tempt, sometimes better than reality. "Thought control" can have different meanings as well I suppose.

As a young man, I had heard Christians claim that the ACT of homosexuality, not the thoughts which you can't control, was the Real sin and celibacy became an option. A brief option, as I could not stop the thoughts, God didn't help, and, as per the 'guilty is as guilty thinks' admonition, I acted.... And have wondered of those tormented with uncontrolable thoughts of worse things. Much worse things and can't help but believe angry, vengeful 'serve my boss right' fantasys (ideally cut off at the root) are better (easier to forgive/less sinful/could be worse) than actually doing it. If they are Truley equal, I wouldn't tell any boarderline, holding back, pseudo believers that. It can work the other way and not inspire inner discipline, but a what the *$&/@!` I'm guilty anyway justification... Do you believe all sin is equal?

The inner world indeed must be healed for any real change to take hold in the shared one. My hesitation with your definitions stem from the possible double edge swing in the other direction once all not nice thoughts or actions are lumped together. It is not me you need to lead to passivity but the clouded mind who wouldn't fathom any of this and may just see it as green light.

[revtj]

awe, once again, I see your point. But I hasten to point out that young people (as well as adults) are exposed to graphic, excessive violence daily on tv, in movies and video games.

Talk about desensitizing & taking root! 99% of the violence depicted shows no consequences, and it is no surprise that we now have gangs of children who drive by McDonalds & kill someone for the thrill, or for initiation into a gang.

I honestly don't think most of us really recognize violence when we see it any more. The effort to expand our view of violence is in reaction to Jesus' nonviolence. (see Wink's book, Jesus and Nonviolence, p.27f)

I think sin is contextual. I think that's what the Bible shows. Many people are taught, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." meant one monagamous opposite-gender spouse for a lifetime. In context it meant, don't have sex with any women with whom you haven't negotiated a deal with her father.

As for gay sin, I think what emerges from the few texts that address it, or seem to be addressing it, is simply that it is not OK to exploit a same-gender partner for sexual gratification. It is especially interesting that it seems to be saying if you have power over someone such that they would be expected to obey you, you may not use that power to gratify your sexual desire. Ah, the conversation returns to violence. Using, exploiting, raping are all violent in nature.

So, again, I defend the expanded definition of violence.

Sheesh, I was expecting someone to stump me with "Is it wrong to stomp on a cockroach?"

[awediot]

Fair enough. I respect your efforts and see their sucess would lead to a kinder world. The ideas of cruelty, abuse, exploitation, simple meanness and thoughtlessness I wiil continue to emphasize as causes of pain,and sinful, but steps to becoming violent. Hopefully we can meet in the middle of a more loving and peaceful place.

Though I have no intentions of being contrary for its own sake, I am quite inquisitive as to peoples' logic behind thier conclusions. I am a Christian, but not because the Bible tells me so. It tells me some pretty nonsensical things I've been forced to ask Why. Ironically, Scripture is a pointless argument to those who need it most, as they believe it the least... and I have yet begun to stump.