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This thread is for all study, thoughts and reflections on the second chapter of Galatians.
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For I am convinced that neither life nor death...neither the present nor the future nor anything in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39 |
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The "church of the law" are legalists who want to impose man-made rules on others. They want to judge people by outward apperance. They have made "Christianity" a list of rules. People are good "Christians" when they follow the letter of the law. Hellfire awaits those who disagree. I think most people see Christianity as adhereance to the rules. Paul combts this very problem in his day. The "church of love" are those who believe that we are a people of faith and are motivated by that faith to live out lives of love. The message of Christ is one of love. All the customs, regulations and practices are useful only if they come from faith and are motivated by love. I see among the LGBT community in general a skepticism (if not downright hostility many times) to Christianity because the "church of law" seems to be the side of Christianity that dominates in American culture. We need Saint Paul to come today and take fundamentalist Christianity to task for making the church a church of rules that ignores the message of faith and refuses to show forth the love of God.
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For I am convinced that neither life nor death...neither the present nor the future nor anything in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39 Last edited by Pablo Rafael; 10-21-2007 at 06:26 AM. Reason: typo |
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Justification, God's act of declaring a sinner righteous by faith alone, is the center of the Christian faith. Martin Luther wrote in the Smalcald Articles:
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This is so different from other religions. In Buddhism Enlightenment is no free gift but the result of personal discipline and the hard work of meditation and the eight-fold path. I think the misunderstanding of Justification (and its implications) stands at the heart of the Religious Right's holy war against LGBT people. By protecting "family values" they are uplifting works, law and merit as the standards of their goodness and godliness. They are establishing a culture of law and misunderstanding their own wickedness (eek I sound like Calvin). Justification by faith says that there is absolutely nothing you can lift up to make you righteous before God. NOTHING. This is so radical when you think about it. Last edited by antonyh; 10-21-2007 at 09:27 PM. Reason: minor word changes |
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BenL --------------- When you can transform the war and violence in yourself, then you can truly begin to help others find peace. Thich Nhat Hanh |
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Hey, I used to be Brother Ben! That was a long time ago. Kept it as a nickname.
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BenL --------------- When you can transform the war and violence in yourself, then you can truly begin to help others find peace. Thich Nhat Hanh |
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Jesus showed love in all its forms to a world that often didn't accept that love. He was forgiving and compassionate to those who failed or didn't understand. He welcomed the outcasts. In fact the ONLY group of people Jesus really attacks are those church people who have enslaved others by a legalism of their own making, the pharisees. Legalism seeks to enslave. Those who are bound by a religion of rules are not free to love. God's forgiveness and acceptance of everyone allows us to love freely without fear or punishment. Christ's love can flow out through US. How awesome is that! Pablo
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For I am convinced that neither life nor death...neither the present nor the future nor anything in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39 |
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I wanted to bring up the difficult subject of sin. I extracted a section from Calvin's Institutes, Book 3, Chapter 12. It is his chapter right after Justification by faith:
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We have talked on this thread about the beauty of God's unconditional pardon in Justification, but the other side of that is the discussion of sin. How do you view sin? Can you even begin to be Orthodox without saying you have been delivered by Christ from slavery to sin? What is the core of sinfulness? Last edited by antonyh; 10-23-2007 at 09:39 PM. |
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I have faced my "depravity," and it ain't a pretty sight. After years of trying, I know that I am powerless to atone for my lack of faith -- worse, my lack of love. Even though I have experienced the joy of spirtual healing, I still am aware of sinfulness in my heart of hearts. The hardest thing to do is to own my own s**t and to quit making excuses for it. An equally difficult spiritual task is to celebrate the goodness in myself as a gift from God and not a human accomplishment. I want so much to be the center of my own universe. Having been brought up Catholic, I have never felt comfortable with the "justification" idiom, although I recognize that this is what I'm talking about. The only way I know how to solve this puzzle is by falling back on this verse in Chapter 2: "It is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me." It is the only way I can reconcile the war between sin and salvation that I experience at the core of my personhood. If I am missing the point that Calvin was making, somebody please enlighten me.
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BenL --------------- When you can transform the war and violence in yourself, then you can truly begin to help others find peace. Thich Nhat Hanh |
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