What exactly is a Bible based marriage?

[Rick336]

From the Advocate News:

June 11, 2009

God "Dropped a Boulder" on Marriage

By Amita Parashar

"Since God created marriage, only he has the authority to change it," the Reverend Duane Motley told marriage-equality opponents at a rally on Tuesday in Albany, N.Y.

Motley, state senator Ruben Diaz Sr., and Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization for Marriage joined supporters in a rally to protect "traditional marriage" outside the capitol building as the New York state senate considers a marriage-equality bill.

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So what does the Bible (God's written word) say about marriage? Here's Mrs. Betty Bowers, the world's greatest Christian, explaining exactly what scripture says about marriage:





Rick

[antiochian]

Well, biblically speaking, a traditional marriage is polygamous. Remember that dude Solomon? Yeah, he had lotsa womens! In a biblical marriage, the woman is the husband's property. If she doesn't submit to his every whim, doesn't have dinner on the table at 6:00 sharp, and isn't ready to pleasure him at a minute's notice, she can expect to be slapped around, dragged through the streets by the hair, and humiliated in front of the community as the men grunt, beat their chests, and wave their clubs in triumph... Marriage just the way God designed it!

[Gracie Vegas]

Well, what exactly is required for a marriage, you know, biblically speaking? What about those repeated covenants made between David and Jonathan?

[Daniel]

"Since God created marriage, only he has the authority to change it," the Reverend Duane Motley told marriage-equality opponents at a rally on Tuesday in Albany, N.Y.

Reminds me of the phrase You can't Box with God.

It's annoying when conservatives pull out this tactic. And it is a tactic. Never mind that not everyone believes in the bible or is a Christianity, and that our nation has civil marriage and separation between church and state.

(thank you Zeus!)

I guess this means- according to Rev Motely's twisted logic- that atheist's, since they don't believe in God, have no business marrying.

You are is so much trouble Rick!

HOWEVER, as a resident of NYC, I can tell you that the coup that recently took place in the State Senate here in NY has everyone wondering what is going to happen with the gay marriage bill currently in play. My sense? It's a matter of when, not if. NY is going to have gay marriage. In my lifetime. And the Rev. Motely's of the world are simply going to have to face to deal with that.

Minds are changing. Here is one worth reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/op...ozzi.html?_r=1

[Gracie Vegas]

I guess this means- according to Rev Motely's twisted logic- that atheist's, since they don't believe in God, have no business marrying.

You know, this is a question I have asked many, many conservatives in my life. No one has ever actually answered me. It usually comes with a few obscure Bible verses and one of those 'we shouldn't question God' remarks. You know, kind of like the adult version of reciting a silly nursery rhyme and patting me on the head. But I kinda feel like it's a very valid question. If marriage is only God ordained for heterosexual Christians then they have a really big problem. Forget gay marriage . . . what about Muslims, Hindus, Wiccans? The list goes on.

And while I'm on this, and please forgive me for being so wordy, what liberty are these zealots losing if gay couples are given the rights they deserve? And what's eroding? Please don't tell me anyone out there is still silly enough to believe that same sex marriage is a danger to opposite sex marriage. What's left to "destroy"? Heterosexuals marry and divorce like it's some sort Olympic event, spousal abuse, adultery, child abuse, the oh so wonderful tradition of using children like pawns when they do divorce . . . so, clearly, they've done a fine job mocking it all on their own. If all the insanity they've brought to marriage isn't eroding or harming their religion then someone really should tell them to shut up and sit down.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Gracie Vegas

........someone really should tell them to shut up and sit down.

I agree!

In fact, one Sunday morning I stood from the pew and screamed those exact words. That choir really sucked.

Rick

[Gracie Vegas]

Hahaha, I'm sorry! I'm so wordy. I just get so frustrated. The last right winger I got into a discussion with was completely homophobic and he hated bully breeds. That conversation was loads of fun.

[Gennee]

I was married in a church ceremony. I know others who were married before civil authorities. They're both valid marriages. The way I see it much of the homophobic attitudes against same sex marriage has more to do with control. In my mind, discrimination is wrong for ANY reason.

In the Old Testament there were nothing instituted as to how many many wives a man could have. Jacob had two wives. There's the matter of concubines of which Solomon had over 700 of them. Abraham had concubines also. King David's statement after Jonathan's death that "your love to me was more wonderful than the love of women suggests that their relationship was more than friendship.

Some observations: it's said that same-sex couples do not procreate. There are heterosexual couples who, for various reasons, cannot procreate either. My spouse couldn't produce a child. Same sex couples are prohibited from adopting children and yet I don't see many heterosexual couples knocking down the doors of the adoptions to give these children a home. If our opponents are so concern about marriage, then why don't they help out those couples who are struggling? To me, their argument doesn't hold water.

A bible based marriage, in my mind, is one based on love, commitment and respect for each other. I think a lot about about marriage is suppose to be is based on a patriarchal model of men having control over women. I totally disagree with this. I believe that feminism came about because of this attitude. Looking back I'm glad it did happen.

Gennee

[RedneckDyke]

Originally Posted by Gracie Vegas

Hahaha, I'm sorry! I'm so wordy. I just get so frustrated. The last right winger I got into a discussion with was completely homophobic and he hated bully breeds. That conversation was loads of fun.

How can anyone hate bully breeds? They are wonderful dogs. Very affectionate. By the way, you can get t-shirts with that quote about making it to the fence and the shirt also has a picture of the dog on it. There are also pit t-shirts with a picture of 2 dogs and the 16 Tons song quote "One made of iron, the other of steel. If the right one don't get you then the left one will." You can get these shirts from Dixie Outfitters, probably from other places too. Dixie Outfitters has a big selection of pitbull stuff.