Lesbian Gangs

[u-dog]

Originally Posted by BrentRichards

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

Yeah, and when you consider that according to them only about 1% of the population is GLBT ... it must mean that ALL OF US (men and women alike) belong to 8 or ten Lesbian gangs huh?

[BrentRichards]

Originally Posted by u-dog

Yeah, and when you consider that according to them only about 1% of the population is GLBT ... it must mean that ALL OF US (men and women alike) belong to 8 or ten Lesbian gangs huh?

As if. I only belong to 2.

[Steven E. Webster]

Originally Posted by BrentRichards

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

O'Reilly and the Fox "Crime Expert" were being incredibly sly. It has been reported by a reliable authority that their are 150 total gangs of all types in the D.C. area. Going back and listening carefully to O'Reilly's report you find that no one ever actually says "150 lesbian gangs." They discuss "lesbian gangs" in one sentence, refer to 150 gangs in the D.C. area in another sentence, and then return to discussing "lesbian gangs."

Same thing with the way they string together several isolated incidents and then make a statement about there being "a nation-wide network" implying that this is a criminal conspiracy of national scope--something they never really spell out--they implied it, but they can deny they said it if ever pinned down.

I suspect that, if pinned down, they would deny ever asserting that there are 150 "lesbian gangs" in the D.C. area. I know a right-wing hate-monger who justifies this kind of thing as "spin" and says everyone does it. Somehow you can get away with lying when you call it "spin."

Seems like folks like O'Reilly wouldn't know the truth if it bit them______you know where.

I don't like to frame our struggle as a "culture war"--that's a term that comes from the right wing. "War" implies that the Christian Right is defending itself against an aggressive "enemy." "Lying" and all sorts of "collateral damage" is justifiable when one is defending oneself in a "war" agains an "enemy."

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

[antonyh]

Originally Posted by Steven E. Webster

I don't like to frame our struggle as a "culture war"--that's a term that comes from the right wing. "War" implies that the Christian Right is defending itself against an aggressive "enemy." "Lying" and all sorts of "collateral damage" is justifiable when one is defending oneself in a "war" agains an "enemy."

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

I like to think that we are seeking justice, the restoration of that which is rightfully ours. In seeking justice we need to do it with wisdom, courage and self control.

I agree with you that the term "culture war" diminishes what we are about.

[Zerbie]

Originally Posted by Steven E. Webster

We need to get beyond the "war" frame and start insisting that everyone behave like we're living in a civil society, not a battlefield.

Steven Webster

THANK YOU!!!!

That is SO well said!

That needs to go on bumper stickers, tee shirts, back packs. . . .

[antonyh]

If you're done laughing about the Lesbian Gangs, here is another funny one:

Hetero woman: Feminism turned me into lesbian
'I'd had a very happy marriage and a very good relationship with men'

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=56458

I say we spread feminism far and wide!

[antonyh]

Sorry I could not resist...Here is Americans for "Truth" gloating about Michael Glatze.

http://americansfortruth.com/news/mi...o-founder.html

And the Queerty response:

http://www.queerty.com/news/peter-la...dick-20070705/

[Gregory_de_Bois]

I read an article on WND about a school's attempt to "convert their freshman gay." I almost started laughing, 'cause it was really about a sex-ed class that was just saying that some are homosexual and it's okay, no conversion there. What made me laugh even more is that the spokesperson for Concerned Women for America was a man. I thought it was Concerned Women for America?!?! Am I missing something? I bet that man is really a woman. Otherwise how could he be in the Concerned Women for America? huh HUH???

[Steven E. Webster]

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the...aven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

[Gregory_de_Bois]

Originally Posted by Steven E. Webster

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the...aven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

I wonder what those conservatives have to say about that? MAHA!

[antonyh]

Originally Posted by Steven E. Webster

Friends,

Wayne Besen is his usual caustic self in his comments on Glatze, but under it all Wayne makes a lot of sense:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/the...aven/#more-204

Also, piecing together information here and there, it appears Glatze was recently baptized into the Mormon faith in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Steven Webster

Yeah, he's mormon. Here is a link:

http://www.churchexecutive.com/Page.cfm/PageID/9643

Here is the original link:
http://www.wthrockmorton.com/

[antonyh]

Looks like GLADD is tackling O'Reilly:

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?...&sc3=&id=21612

[wmanion]

Unfortunately, my borther is a FOX news addict. Last night there was a retraction of this story on O'Rielly. There is a Lesbian group called the pink pistols but they are advocates of gun rights...not a gang of any sorts. Of course, good ol' Bill was not there for the retraction, the girl that fills in for him when he is gone was and the retractions was only a couple of sentences and I heard no apology for the false story.

[antonyh]

Originally Posted by wmanion

Unfortunately, my borther is a FOX news addict. Last night there was a retraction of this story on O'Rielly. There is a Lesbian group called the pink pistols but they are advocates of gun rights...not a gang of any sorts. Of course, good ol' Bill was not there for the retraction, the girl that fills in for him when he is gone was and the retractions was only a couple of sentences and I heard no apology for the false story.

Well at least he is feeling some heat.

[tymejumper]

Originally Posted by BrentRichards

What a load of crap ... the "Pink Pistols" for anyone keeping score, is a GLBT group who advocate gun ownership rights ... they may not be mainstream GLBT, but they're not a gang, for crying out loud.

150 Lesbian gangs in DC alone, wow. How do they ever find a bar? Can't be 150 Lesbain bars in DC ... and we know gangs don't share nice.

Just imagine all the broken nails these lesbians will have after their cat fights. That would be enough for all us femmes to quit the gang right then and there! LOL LOL LOL

[u-dog]

Originally Posted by antonyh

Well at least he is feeling some heat.

No he isn't! he knows full well that he can tell a big whopper like this and that it will travel far and wide among his "fans" and support the right-wing lie machine and that when he whispers his pathetic little apology that no one will hear or notice it.

[tymejumper]

Originally Posted by u-dog

No he isn't! he knows full well that he can tell a big whopper like this and that it will travel far and wide among his "fans" and support the right-wing lie machine and that when he whispers his pathetic little apology that no one will hear or notice it.

Oreily is just an idiot.

[Progo35]

I just wanted to let everyone know that the O'Reilly factor is, as I write, talking to GLAD about the misinformation presented on the show. GLAD did say thankyou for inviting him on to correct/discuss the issue, the spokesman saying that he hopes other news stations will follow his example. So, at least that was a relatively positive dialogue. According to O'Reilly, the detective/interviewee who said lesbian gangs were a national epidemic posted an apology on his website.

To be frank, I really like Bill O'Reilly's show because it is one of the few news shows that I feel doesn't embrace the ideology of the extreme left. And, during the Terri Schiavo fiasco, his show was one of the only newscasts to explore cases in which PVS had been misdiagnosed. Now, obviously, O'Reilly tends toward the conservative end of things and this example in itself shows that he, too, mistakenly makes false reports. Although, Bill O'Reilly did say that some lesbian gangs exist but not widely, although, as GLAD said, he really needs to clarify that, which GLAD invited him to do.

One thing that I think Bill needs to stop doing is interrupting people when they're talking. It makes him look intolerant and brash, esp. during this last broadcast in dealing with an extremely sensitive issue concerning his own broadcast.

[CaseyAnne]

Don't you know lesbian gangs are everywhere? Supposedly I'm in one, i was wearing their colors (a rainbow cape) and was threatened with suspension for it... if there really is a lesbian gang, please let me know, I'd love the hook up>

[BruceChris]

30 years ago, I used to wrench for a bunch of women, some gay, some str8 who rode Harleys. They called themselves the Alliance of Women Bikers. But they've been gone so long, even Google has no record of them.

Keep the rubber side down, Bruce Chris