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Old 07-27-2007, 11:32 PM
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This is an interesting look into relationship. I sounds like it is not easy for anyone to deal with these issues.
This past week I have been with my boys and my grand children. The first time we all have been together for a long time. The reason I may be a fake is while I am coming a long way toward acceptance and understanding of GLBT's if one of my boys "came out" I can't say I wouldn't be disappointed. In fact I hope to never have to deal with it.
As I read about what some of you deal with makes it even more understandable as to why I should not be silent about the inclusion of the GLBT community in our faith.
I am uncomfortable reading about your relationships, I can only imagine the difficulty in family relationships coming to terms with reality. My oldest son once came home with a girl we all learned to hate, that was tough enough.
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Sailaway,
Why would you feel in conflict with me? I am a lesbian who would like to see the straight world shape up and stop being hypocritical about their own lives and quit pointing fingers at glbt's. I would like to see James Dobson shut his stupid mouth and quit spreading downright lies about us and keep his straight and very narrow opinions to himself. Doesn't he have a life?
I have no conflict with you, but if you really feel conflict being here, why are you here? I love your signature, doesn't it really say how you feel or did you just think it was clever? I guess I am just confused as to what you're really trying to say here.

Hi all,

PNG, as I see it, Sailor is still finding his way through the tar-pit of homophobia and just now unveiling what he knows is true in his heart. For all of us, this was a process of whatever length in time, and Sailor has shown himself a kind, caring, as Dave says "stalwart defender" of gay persons. I think it's very honest of him, and a fact of human nature as well, to admit that he would fear unprepared and tested, if one of his own children were to come out. How would he know how he would react, when this is something still new and theoretical to him? We've all dealt with the homophobic illusions we were taught, and now it is his turn - and he's a champion with a heart of gold. I absolutely expect that if Sailor had a gay family member come out, or close friend, Sailor will absolutely stand by that person in courage and love.


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Sailaway!

You may not know how you would react if one of your grandkids came out to you... but I do. You'd love him/her and you'd become an even more stalwart defender of equal rights than you are already.

I personally am glad that all 3 of my boys are straight... cuz at this point I'm in it for the grandchildren but it always seemed like bad planning on God's part because I would have made a fantastic Dad of a gay son... anyway I'm hopin that at least one of my grandkids is gay because I will surely be ONE HELL OF A GRANDFATHER to a gay child !!

gay kids can and do grow up and bring home wonderful partners. they can and do make families and have children. They can and do have satisfying careers and can make you as proud as straight kids. the only bad part is having to watch ignorant homophobes disrespecting them.

Whatever brings you here to post... I'm glad you're here.
Me too. Always happy to see you sharing your perspective, Sailor.
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Last edited by Zerbie; 07-28-2007 at 09:31 PM. Reason: silliness
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