Creation vs. Evolution: What side are you on?

[andrewlittle]

Originally Posted by Emproph

So then you agree that evolution is indeed the natural 'effect' of God’s consciousness upon physical matter, and that we, as humans -- outside of stars, and other such stellar phenomena -- are the pinnacle of that ‘God consciousness,’ in physical matter?

Right with you - up to a point.

We could be the "pinnacle" of God consciousness in physical matter.

But, then again - if we believe we are "mde in the image" of God, and we suffer occasionally from brain farts, then God may have the capacity also for brain farts. We could be the unfortunate effect of one such gaseous expulsion of divine grey matter.

[Emproph]

Originally Posted by andrewlittle

But, then again - if we believe we are "mde in the image" of God, and we suffer occasionally from brain farts, then God may have the capacity also for brain farts. We could be the unfortunate effect of one such gaseous expulsion of divine grey matter.

Any "God" we conceptually point to, is still smack dab in the middle of infinity. Meaning that any and every God we conceive of to worship, would still be prone to the flaw of less than total perfection.

[tdogg]

So, if the Bible is the inspired word of God, and God is indeed prone to the occasional brain fart, then that would certainly explain some of the more confusing verses.

[BruceChris]

However, I think that the game is much larger than that. First of all, we are told that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars out there, give or take a factor of 10 or so.

Next, let's remember that the universe is about 14,000,000,000 years old. If we assume that all of recorded human history is, say 14,000 years, then the human race as we understand it has only been around for 1/1,000,000 of the age of the universe. So we're not the only game in town. Far, Far from it.

Personally, I suspect that God is out there multi-tasking on a level incomprehensible even to an Einstien. - - "And yet even the smallest sparrow may not fall without His knowing" -

Gotta run, I'm starting to get a headache, Bruce Chris

[Emproph]

Originally Posted by tdogg

So, if the Bible is the inspired word of God, and God is indeed prone to the occasional brain fart, then that would certainly explain some of the more confusing verses.

Not to mention inspiring humans to attempt to put infinite perfection into words.

[tdogg]

Originally Posted by Emproph

Not to mention inspiring humans to attempt to put infinite perfection into words.

Supposedly there is no perfect human (save Jesus Christ but he is a deity right?). So how can people believe that numerous humans wrote down every word of God exactly how God wanted it? It would take nothing less than an absolutely perfect human to full off that feat.

[Emproph]

Originally Posted by tdogg

Supposedly there is no perfect human (save Jesus Christ but he is a deity right?).

A Course in Miracles (supposedly written by Jesus), describes Jesus as the "elder brother."

Which would then make us deity too.

Imagine the implications if that were actually true.

Imagine the implications if that were actually true.

So how can people believe that numerous humans wrote down every word of God exactly how God wanted it? It would take nothing less than an absolutely perfect human to full off that feat.

Congratulations grasshoppa, you have officially reached full Biblical enlightenment..

[tdogg]

Originally Posted by Emproph

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Congratulations grasshoppa, you have officially reached full Biblical enlightenment..

Awwww, thanks Patrick.

[BishopIoan]

I believe there was a creative being but that he/she used evolution as the method. So with that in mind, I would say I am an ID beliver, but once life came to be I believe that evolution was the force which shaped it. There is simply too much eidence to back volution.