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Old 10-24-2008, 09:50 PM
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I know some women who want to vote for Obama just because they find him to be extremely handsome, charismatic, and eloquent. He is also very diplomatic and knows how to get his points across pretty well.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:10 PM
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I really don't mean to be a jerk, but I just want to make some clarifications.

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Plain and simple, while race may be a secondary issue, it may actually help McCain win the election and the majority of McCain supporters are at least homophobic if not racist. This is a fact.
#1) I define a majority as greater than 50%. And though it may seem likely that more than half of all Mccain supporters are homophobic, if not racist, I like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Because to paraphrase Ghandi: We can not pretend that the intentions of another person are any less pure than our own.

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I believe it is morally wrong to demean Sarah Palin on the grounds of her sex (I understand that she is a Republican Religious Right and that angers many people) but before everything else, she is a WOMAN first.
#2) I agree completely, up to the point that you say she is a WOMAN first. I guess the use of the word WOMAN in and of itself is a result of our culture's deep-seated chauvinism. First and foremost, Sarah Palin is a human being; and that's is my view of feminism.

And we really need to worry less about the aftermath of this election. If there is anything we can do about any problems that arise, we mustn't worry. If there isn't anything we can do, then still, no need to worry.
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:50 PM
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And we really need to worry less about the aftermath of this election. If there is anything we can do about any problems that arise, we mustn't worry. If there isn't anything we can do, then still, no need to worry.
Am I misunderstanding you, or are you really encouraging complacency about a hugely important presidential election and the hugely important aftermath? If there's nothing we can do AFTER it happens, that's not a reason to just not worry about it now when we CAN do something.
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:40 PM
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It is mind-boggling that in this country, in 2008, there is so much racism. This is a town, where it appears from the video that a good number of that town citizens are saying what they do about Obama. Good grief, are we NOT past that yet??? We aren't, and I'm with Jen, it's scary. Real scary.

The McCain/Palin campaign is exploiting Palin's looks, that's pretty sexist in my opinion. They are counting on a number of voters forgetting she isn't knowledgeable on the issues, has no idea what foreign policy even means, can't think of a single US Supreme Court decision, spouts off lies about Obama (that ticket is the perpetuator of the lies regarding Obama being linked to terrorism). No, forget that. She'll give the guys a wink and a smile, toss her head and they'll cast their vote for her.

The closer we get to Nov 4th, the more I find McCain/Palin unbelievable, incompetent and difficult to listen to. Even the key campaign people have had it with Palin. It wouldn't be a complete surprise if there was a sudden replacement for the VP, but then I can't see McCain admitting he was wrong. The McCain people are pretty done with her though - a lot of them anyway (check out the article on CNN.com).

And even if Obama was Muslin, which he definitely isn't - so what??? We have freedom of religion here, as much as the Christian network would like to think their religion is exclusive. It's not the religious people who are dangerous, it's the extremists, and there are plenty of those here who call themselves Christians. Any religious extremist is scary to me.
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Old 10-26-2008, 08:46 PM
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It is mind-boggling that in this country, in 2008, there is so much racism. This is a town, where it appears from the video that a good number of that town citizens are saying what they do about Obama. Good grief, are we NOT past that yet??? We aren't, and I'm with Jen, it's scary. Real scary.

The McCain/Palin campaign is exploiting Palin's looks, that's pretty sexist in my opinion. They are counting on a number of voters forgetting she isn't knowledgeable on the issues, has no idea what foreign policy even means, can't think of a single US Supreme Court decision, spouts off lies about Obama (that ticket is the perpetuator of the lies regarding Obama being linked to terrorism). No, forget that. She'll give the guys a wink and a smile, toss her head and they'll cast their vote for her.

The closer we get to Nov 4th, the more I find McCain/Palin unbelievable, incompetent and difficult to listen to. Even the key campaign people have had it with Palin. It wouldn't be a complete surprise if there was a sudden replacement for the VP, but then I can't see McCain admitting he was wrong. The McCain people are pretty done with her though - a lot of them anyway (check out the article on CNN.com).

And even if Obama was Muslin, which he definitely isn't - so what??? We have freedom of religion here, as much as the Christian network would like to think their religion is exclusive. It's not the religious people who are dangerous, it's the extremists, and there are plenty of those here who call themselves Christians. Any religious extremist is scary to me.
I really hope you're right about Republicans not like Palin, because the ones I know, love her(this is something I have a hard time understanding).

I felt good yesterday going for a walk on my street... I counted about a dozen Obama/Biden yard signs and not a single McCain one!
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