Robertson's 2009 Predictions...

[sjbouza]

Originally Posted by Eugene

I ended up voting for Obama based on his support for ENDA, but the talk of several years of trillion dollar deficits is already making me think I may have made a mistake.

But you have to look at the fact that Obama isn't the reason for the HUGE deficit that we are in. It has been 8 years of Bush running the show that has put us in this situation. I truly feel for Mr. Obama, he has a very large plate to digest in his first four years as President. It is not going to be easy, it wouldn't matter who was in office. I don't think that anyone that voted for Obama "made a mistake". I think he is the one that is going to be able to get something done and get us on the right road.

I know how some of you feel about the Warren issue here on the forums. I too felt "betrayed" initially. However, looking at it from another prospective I can see his reasoning. He isn't governing from the left or right, he is taking the centralist point. Trying to include everyone. I am not happy by any means by his picking of Warren, but I am not all that surprised either. I don't feel he is throwing the LGBT community under the bus and is going to forget about us. I think he is trying to open the doors on every side so we can find the common ground that we all need.

It isn't going to happen tomorrow, in a week or even a year. But from the way I have been seeing Obama handling things thus far I am happy. It is how I hoped he would govern. As a President he MUST be central to all things. I am not saying he can't lean left or right on certain issues, but I can see that he is trying to be open and fair to all that are in this mess. The war in the middle east, and now one in Gaza, the financial crisis this country is in. These are all things that are going to take time and attention. That means that LGBT issues may not be on the forefront of the Presidents agenda. I can understand that, I am not happy, but I can understand. Prioritizing is what is needed.

Our time will come and I feel it will be soon. The constructor of the DOMA is calling for its repeal. This is a HUGE step. Without the DOMA, then states will have to recognize marriages no matter where they are performed. This is a HUGE door that could be opened for the LGBT community. Just give him time people. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Let him show by "his actions" and not jump to conclusions to quickly. I think that is a hard thing to do when you have been fighting for so long. But if you can just let him show himself and what he is going to do before you condemn him, I think he will surprise you.

My 2 cents.

Peace,
Scott

[Matt Algren]

Originally Posted by sjbouza

I know how some of you feel about the Warren issue here on the forums. I too felt "betrayed" initially. However, looking at it from another prospective I can see his reasoning. He isn't governing from the left or right, he is taking the centralist point. Trying to include everyone. I am not happy by any means by his picking of Warren, but I am not all that surprised either. I don't feel he is throwing the LGBT community under the bus and is going to forget about us. I think he is trying to open the doors on every side so we can find the common ground that we all need.

I'm going to keep saying it because I think it's important: Bigots should never have a seat at the table, no matter how popular they are.

We should expect and demand better from our elected officials.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Matt Algren

I'm going to keep saying it because I think it's important: Bigots should never have a seat at the table, no matter how popular they are.

We should expect and demand better from our elected officials.

Rick

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Rick336

Here are my top 16 predictions for 2009.

1. There will be a snowstorm in the Midwest between January 7th and April 15th that will cause airport delays and rescheduling. Lost baggage will also be a problem.

Chicago got a foot of snow today. Some flight schedules at O'Hare Airport were canceled.

I am psychic.


Rick

[Eugene]

But you have to look at the fact that Obama isn't the reason for the HUGE deficit that we are in. It has been 8 years of Bush running the show that has put us in this situation.

I wasn't talking about the huge deficit that we're in. I was talking about the gargantuan deficits that Obama is proposing.

[andrewlittle]

Originally Posted by Eugene

I wasn't talking about the huge deficit that we're in. I was talking about the gargantuan deficits that Obama is proposing.

Growth in deficit:
In each of the years from 2003 to 2007, the deficit grew more than half a trillion dollars ($550b, $600b, $550b, $570b, $500b respectively).
In fiscal year 2008, which ended 9/30/2008, the deficit grew $1.02 trillion.
This fiscal year - in just slightly over 3 months - the deficit has already grown $1.04 trillion, and that doesn't include more than half of the bank bailout and the whole big-3 car company bailout.

For the rest of this fiscal year, until 9/30/09, we are already committed to another $400b for bailouts, $550b for the war, and $470b just to pay the interest on what Bush has borrowed to wage war. All that is on top of the projected $560b deficit already in Bush's budget.

That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger. So, you're saying that Obama is engineering a major increase in deficit, eh?

Think what ya gotta!

[Eugene]

That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger. So, you're saying that Obama is engineering a major increase in deficit, eh?

I'm saying that Obama's claim that we must be prepared for several years of trillion-dollar deficits is financial insanity. That's all.

Oh, and he's also talking about huge tax cuts on top of massive stimulus. It sounds as if there is only an acceleration of current fiscal irresponsibility in the works.

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by andrewlittle

For the rest of this fiscal year, until 9/30/09, we are already committed to another $400b for bailouts, $550b for the war, and $470b just to pay the interest on what Bush has borrowed to wage war. All that is on top of the projected $560b deficit already in Bush's budget.

That is a guaranteed deficit of $2.98 trillion for fiscal year 2009 without Obama lifting as much as a finger.

If our country was a car, you might say it was totaled. Getting it rebuilt? That's going to take some doing. I'm not pessimistic per se, but I don't think we realize just how bad things are, and what's it's going to take to turn things around.

It isn't going to be pretty.