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Old 02-02-2010, 03:25 PM
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Worth reading- from start to finish. Powerful. And I applaud the reporter's courage. It's not easy to walk into the lion's den.
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Very good article. I'm going to pass it on.

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Agreed - a powerful, yet disturbing article. "Reorientation" therapy really is psychological torture and not based, imo, on real science, but politicl & religious ideology that seeks to "change" the so-called "other" of society. From an anthropological point of view, it is similar to witch hunts in some African tribal societies. Those societies ostracize and single out women that do not conform to cultural norms & call them witches. Usually the accused women is forced to confess or be exiled from community life. If she complies, she is welcomed back into society & willingly conforms to social mores. Likewise, the "ex-gay" movement is basically doing the same: taking innocent people that do not conform w/ local social norms in dominantly conservative areas & "convert" them to be "normal" based on ideological and cultural views and prejudices.

Sorry for babbling, but these "ex-gay" movements really anger me.
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Agreed - a powerful, yet disturbing article. "Reorientation" therapy really is psychological torture and not based, imo, on real science, but politicl & religious ideology that seeks to "change" the so-called "other" of society. .
I think you said it very well. Right on the money in fact.
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Thank you Daniel & You stated your pt. well too. Much appreciated.
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The thing that weirded me out a bit was I technically applied to all those reasons I'm gay. Hah, my parents show nil emotion, I was in ICU for 3 weeks when I was born, my grandma was an occultist, I'm more like my mom than my dad. And for some reason none of that matters. I'm gay because God made me that way, the rest... is just filler.
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These ex-gay movements scare me. I've heard much evidence of their harm, and little of their "help". Many people who say they were "cured" of their homosexuality came out later and said that it did not do squat, which lends further evidence to the complete lack of effectiveness of these programs. Ex-gay leaders are blind to reason and try to justify what they do as science.

I commend the APA for taking a stance against these organizations and the harm they cause. Some of the anti-gay people may say that the APA is being biased, but I honestly doubt it. When the leaders of these ex-gay groups come out and apologize for their involvement, it seriously ruins their credibility. Not to mention, numerous studies have shown that their therapies simply do not work. It is shameful.

When will people learn? Ignorance is a terrible thing that hurts people.
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I'm surprised there's not an Ex-amputee movement. I mean, if God can magically change a gay into a straight, why can't he magically grow a leg?


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Rick, you're hilarious. That's amazing.
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