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03-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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I'm glad this thread was posted, although I'm not really sure why I didn't notice it before.
I've always had somewhat of a bias against this, & am still somewhat skeptical sometimes. Back when I went to GUTS church, in my teens, they would try to force this as sort of a requirement. I don't go to that church now for reasons obvious to anyone who might know anything about it, but my partner does this, probably a couple times a day. Short prayers, not shouting, but still tounges I guess. I've never felt any need to throw all my linguistic skills to the wind to pray, but I really doubt he's someone who would fake it, much less when there is no one around. Doesn't push it on me. That being said, after seeing the scans & some things that have been said here, I wonder about something. Every once in a while he says something that I know is exactly the same phrase. Not any language I know, but I pick up little linguistic things, & recognize that phrase enough to say it myself, although I don't know what it means. So I wonder if you make a habit of this, does your brain start to learn the language automatically? I've heard other people who probably aren't insincere do it. A lot of it sounds similar. Whatever it is, I'm inclined to think there is somewhat of a pattern, like any language. Maybe it's not gibberish after all.
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03-29-2007, 05:47 PM
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03-29-2007, 06:14 PM
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Question to GLBT-friendly Pentecostals and others here with similar beliefs in the gifts of tongues, prophecy, and other direct inspiration from God:
Do you believe that the dramatic growth of the Pentecostal and charismatic movements over the past century is a work of God? If so, how do you account for the fact that the Pentecostal and similar churches tend to be among the most homophobic churches?
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03-30-2007, 12:39 PM
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Never seen their web site before, but that's it. It was started by a few "born again" bikers, & grew to what it is now. They're very literalist, preach a lot of hellfire crap, etc. Speaking in toungues was almost a requirement, like you were not Christian enough if you didn't do it. Everyone is supposed to feel guilty basically all the time. I don't see why anyone would believe that way. They also do the Halloween thing where they have various scenes of people in Hell, & try to convert those who come to see the event.
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08-11-2010, 02:38 PM
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A short video on speaking in tongues
The following video is very helpful in understanding the gifts of tongues, prophecy and knowledge and why they ceased.
Speaking In Tongues Part A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6fIUpvZUI God bless, Mick
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08-11-2010, 07:11 PM
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So I watched the vid and got that the speaker was using various scriptures to create a narrative concerting Tongues. Ok. So what does this have to do with this thread? Do you have a point to your post? And if so, what is it?
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08-13-2010, 02:01 PM
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"Speaking in tongues" (from my point of view) may be the result of an undisciplined mind.
"There is nothing so disobedient as an undisciplined mind." - Buddha Rick Last edited by Rick336; 08-14-2010 at 01:59 AM. Reason: changed a few words
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08-18-2010, 09:45 AM
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Anytime anyone talks about speaking in tongues I can't help but think of the Movie "Saved" where Cassandra "speaks in tongues" at the assembly. Or the movie "The Apostle" where the radio station guy tells Robert Duvall that he can preach on the radio as long as he speaks the King's English and not in tougues.
I don't have any problem with it except if people just make it up and say God told them something just to have power over people or make themselves look good. Or some churches pressure people to do it or they aren't really saved. I think if someone did it in my church they may get a look or two but it wouldn't be a big deal. We have lots of different kind of people in our church.
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08-18-2010, 10:51 PM
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I grew up in a Foursquare Gospel church. You were made to feel like an imcomplete christian if you didn't speak in tongues at that church. There were special services that lasted into the morning hours to help someone receive the gift of speaking in tongues. You just had to "tarry until the Spirit moved". Then you had to "pray through." My mom received the gift while still in the baptist church. Our family was invited to find a more suitable church. A few months later I received the gift on my birthday.
When I received the gift of speaking in tongues I just spoke a few words of babble. Then my tongue took off almost by itself. I was forming the words but they flowed very quickly. I still do pray in tongues sometimes. I believe it helps you pray when you aren't sure what to pray. I've also found that praying in tongues is calming. FWIW
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08-19-2010, 08:38 PM
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10-01-2010, 02:30 PM
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Pentecostal is a false church
The catholic church is the mother of all harlots, all her daughter churches will be destroyed as well as her when Jesus Christ comes again. Denominations are not what Christ wants. The bible is against these churches, they do not follow the teachings of Christ but the teachings of man. The speaking of tongues It is much better to speak in a language that everyone understands Also the fact of the matter is that speaking in tongues are for non believers to make believers out of them,, so it should not be used in church in the prescence of believers. The true church is you and me and the people who are saved in Jesus Christ name, the born again Christians. All other churches will be destroyed. They are from satan,, The churches can be traced back to catholism and they are her daughters. I DO NOT SUPPORT NO CHURCH ESPECIALLY ONES AGAINST GAY PEOPLE
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10-01-2010, 03:47 PM
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Nonviolence is about loving our advesaries, not calling them names. Many of us here have found a welcoming place within Christian (and even Catholic) churches. Gandhi says we must become the change we seek, not imitate those we are trying to change. While I don't automatically trust everyone who speaks in tongues, I'm enough of a charismatic to know that there are a number of people who speak in tongues who are Spirit filled. Let's not just turn the world upside down, let's create a more loving and accepting place. Kara
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10-01-2010, 08:52 PM
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10-01-2010, 10:19 PM
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"Beloved let us tolerate one another. For tolerance is of God and everyone that tolerates is born of God and knows God. He that tolerates not, knows not God for God is tolerance." 1 John 4:7,8
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